From dawn at mediawonk.com Sat Dec 1 02:28:56 2007 From: dawn at mediawonk.com (Dawn Scribner) Date: Sat Dec 1 02:29:01 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Regarding the UU and Antioch Message-ID: Richelle Russell, class of '8 (I think?) is a Unitarian minister and leading advocate for gay rights. She might be a good conduit for a connection with the church. From matt at baya.net Sat Dec 1 08:40:50 2007 From: matt at baya.net (Matthew Baya) Date: Sat Dec 1 08:40:58 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Regarding the UU and Antioch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A1BDA4D-0241-4E1B-8CAF-EB5008762D8D@baya.net> actually one real close connection is a current student, Julian Sharp, mentioned in his statement to the BOT at the August meeting that he had been on the Board of Trustees of the Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA) (which is the main organization for all UU chuches). Marshall Hawkins '92 is also a UU minister, and I suspect there are many others if we start shaking the UU/Antioch tree. I sense a Record/Antiochian article coming along here ;) And while I'm not sure about the coffee hour fundraising idea, if we can get Antioch admissions applications anywhere near UU teens that would be a great recruitment effort. Maybe Antioch could host a YRUU conference or sponsor some event that would attract UU youth. -Matt On Dec 1, 2007, at 2:28 AM, Dawn Scribner wrote: > > Richelle Russell, class of '8 (I think?) is a Unitarian minister and > leading > advocate for gay rights. She might be a good conduit for a > connection with > the church. > > > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! From edk at homesickblues.com Sat Dec 1 11:54:08 2007 From: edk at homesickblues.com (Ed M Koziarski) Date: Sat Dec 1 11:54:14 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network Message-ID: To truly reverse its closure, Antioch College needs to begin acting like it?s open, and begin building on its vibrant academic foundation to grow into a healthy, self-sufficient institution. To make this happen, Antioch must immediately: * establish the College Advisory Board and invest it with real authority, including hiring a College President * remove internal barriers and begin recruiting and admitting new and transfer students for Fall 2008 * restore tenure and remove the threat of firing that hangs over faculty and staff * maintain all academic and support services during renovations * hold leadership accountable for past decisions and statements * ensure an open and participatory decision making process * guarantee a commitment from leadership to operate on principles of openness and honesty * have leaders committed to the turnaround of Antioch College * call for respect in communications from all university officials so the College?s already challenging task isn?t made more difficult If you support this message, please lend your name to the cause by signing on to this statement at http://acan.antiochians.org/. We will contact you in the coming weeks with an invitation to become involved with the Antioch College Action Network, an independent collective of students, faculty, staff, alumni, villagers and friends of the college. Your email address will be used to no other ends. Sincerely, the Antioch College Action Network From culrich at incentre.net Sat Dec 1 15:47:45 2007 From: culrich at incentre.net (Carl Ulrich) Date: Sat Dec 1 15:48:03 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Rod Sterling '57 Message-ID: <200712012048.lB1KmAq6034542@bach.incentre.net> There is an interesting article about Rod Sterling in the current issue of UU World, as well as three links to additional information about Rod. He was able to creatively use the Twilight Zone format to deal with a number of controversial social issues that would not have been acceptable to the networks in a regular TV format. He did one program on the life of Horace Mann. It would be great to find a video of that program. The article can be accessed from: http://www.uuworld.org/life/articles/50619.shtml Carl Ulrich 59 Edmonton, Alberta Canada From thebangaloreblue at yahoo.com Sat Dec 1 16:34:23 2007 From: thebangaloreblue at yahoo.com (TheBangaloreBlue) Date: Sat Dec 1 16:34:26 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming! The Christians are Coming! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <476814.3170.qm@web55309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> I think Antioch needs to re-establish it's connection to the progressive/liberal faith community, specifically Christian Churches. One currently exists, but I feel it is not intentional. I feel the strong -anti-religion atmosphere at Antioch is not healthy. I find it ironic, because most students at Antioch identify as being passionate about Social Justice, a term and idology created and implemented by the Roman Catholic Church. Dawn Scribner wrote: Richelle Russell, class of '8 (I think?) is a Unitarian minister and leading advocate for gay rights. She might be a good conduit for a connection with the Christian Church. _______________________________________________ Alumni-chat mailing list Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. From bobabramspe at webtv.net Sat Dec 1 20:58:40 2007 From: bobabramspe at webtv.net (Robert Abrams) Date: Sat Dec 1 20:58:45 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network Message-ID: To Ed Kozarski: I support your statement but cannot use the link supplied. AVE ATQUE VALE (Hail and farewell-the gladiator's salutation) -----Original Message----- From: Ed M Koziarski Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2007 11:54 AM To: alumni chat Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network To truly reverse its closure, Antioch College needs to begin acting like it???s open, and begin building on its vibrant academic foundation to grow into a healthy, self-sufficient institution. To make this happen, Antioch must immediately: * establish the College Advisory Board and invest it with real authority, including hiring a College President * remove internal barriers and begin recruiting and admitting new and transfer students for Fall 2008 * restore tenure and remove the threat of firing that hangs over faculty and staff * maintain all academic and support services during renovations * hold leadership accountable for past decisions and statements * ensure an open and participatory decision making process * guarantee a commitment from leadership to operate on principles of openness and honesty * have leaders committed to the turnaround of Antioch College * call for respect in communications from all university officials so the College???s already challenging task isn???t made more difficult If you support this message, please lend your name to the cause by signing on to this statement at http://acan.antiochians.org/. We will contact you in the coming weeks with an invitation to become involved with the Antioch College Action Network, an independent collective of students, faculty, staff, alumni, villagers and friends of the college. Your email address will be used to no other ends. Sincerely, the Antioch College Action Network _______________________________________________ Alumni-chat mailing list Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! From davidrogerallen at hotmail.com Sat Dec 1 21:06:28 2007 From: davidrogerallen at hotmail.com (YAZZ Allen) Date: Sat Dec 1 21:06:31 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! In-Reply-To: <476814.3170.qm@web55309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <476814.3170.qm@web55309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi from Yazz '66! I really disagree with the statement that strong anti-religion feelings at Antioch are not healthy. I think such feelings are very healthy. Religion, as Marx accurately stated, is the opiate of the people, or one of the opiates, anyway. Religion is substitute for logic and dependence on actual experience. It celebrates the "blessed are they that believe but haven't seen" thing, which is idiotic. It's based on real estate everywhere, and its a grim substitute for culture and progress, which religion when powerful always opposes. This history of religion speaks for itself. It's a shameful history. Antiochians who are not religious are intelligent, and I'm one of them! I'm glad Antiioch was never seriously religious. That speaks well for Antioch. I hope that tradition continues. Best, Yazz '66 --------------------- Contact "Yazz" (David) Allen directly via email at YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com, mail to 644 Shrewsbury Commons Ave., #239, Shrewsbury PA USA 17361...Phone (717) 235 - 1982! See my pro movie actor photos and recent credits/resume by visiting WWW.IMDb.Com (world's largest movie info database, owned by Amazon.Com) IMDb RESUME. Also WWW.SAG.Org "IActor" file. Also WWW.CastingNetworks.Com and/or WWW.NYCasting.Com. > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:34:23 -0800> From: thebangaloreblue@yahoo.com> To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming! The Christians are Coming!> > I think Antioch needs to re-establish it's connection to the progressive/liberal faith community, specifically Christian Churches. One currently exists, but I feel it is not intentional. > > I feel the strong -anti-religion atmosphere at Antioch is not healthy. I find it ironic, because most students at Antioch identify as being passionate about Social Justice, a term and idology created and implemented by the Roman Catholic Church. > > Dawn Scribner wrote:> > Richelle Russell, class of '8 (I think?) is a Unitarian minister and leading> advocate for gay rights. She might be a good conduit for a connection with> the Christian Church. > > > _______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today!> > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.> _______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 From jonny.no at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 23:13:20 2007 From: jonny.no at gmail.com (Jonny) Date: Sat Dec 1 23:13:23 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming! The Christians are Coming! In-Reply-To: <476814.3170.qm@web55309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <476814.3170.qm@web55309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1b1896cc0712012013o1ca2d759kd0e5822dae60197a@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 1, 2007 4:34 PM, TheBangaloreBlue wrote: > strong -anti-religion I'm pretty certain this was foundational to the teachings of (the historical) Jesus long before the church ever added 'establishment' to his teachings. I could cite passages but that would be a bit overwhelming for all of us, i think. > Social Justice, a term and idology created and implemented by the Roman > Catholic Church. I dunno about 'created', but they have implemented such programs, tis true. This tends to get overlooked when viewed next to mishaps like... um, the entire middle ages, really; so the catholic spin may not be as effective in this particular context. I would agree that christians and antioch do share more in common then they don't, though. But I'm not referring to the christian majority; only to the earliest christians, who shared everything in common and adopted a consensus based system of governance where men and women participated equally in decision making, according to recent research. In addition, they apparently took care of the ill and elderly among themselves, a practice that sets them apart from all but the wealthiest of urban dwelling populations at the time, where most understandably saw that as way too risky. Turns out they developed community resistances to many of the things that were killing large numbers of folks on a regular basis, and thus in having a higher rate of survival plus resisting allegiance to the empire became unlikely threats to it's union, at which point they were promptly co-opted by an appropriation committee during the reign of Emperor Constantine. As for the environment here: In my time I have not seen any indication that Antioch is anti-christian. Anti-religion, yes - very much so, but this completely agrees with the teachings of jesus. It is the re-branding of 'christian' that is the problem. The brand got hijacked, is all. Hmm. Remind anyone of anything? Contrary to popular opinion, one could argue the 'brand' got started much earlier then 1853. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try > it now. > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! > -- Jonny Estes NEW TEL#: 6147980914 (till 10pm) AIM: sixy777 !=marketing Open source e-marketing | Data & web solutions e: jonny.no@gmail.com From jonny.no at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 00:00:50 2007 From: jonny.no at gmail.com (Jonny) Date: Sun Dec 2 00:00:52 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! In-Reply-To: References: <476814.3170.qm@web55309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1b1896cc0712012100y496cdd57rff4cef031896ff96@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 1, 2007 9:06 PM, YAZZ Allen wrote: > > Hi from Yazz '66! > > I really disagree with the statement that strong anti-religion feelings at > Antioch are not healthy. > the term religion ends up getting mixed up with spirituality, though. > ...logic and dependence on actual experience. It celebrates the "blessed > are they that believe but haven't seen" thing, which is idiotic. I disagree completely. Western rational thought is equally if not more idiotic: For instance I'm not convinced that what I've not experienced isn't just as real as what I have, or that things outside of my ability to perceive them don't exist, thus I'm not convinced that my perception allows for an authentic subjective representation of any objective reality Plus, there is a also good chance our space-time continuum is merely a filter applied to our neurobiology to keep us from exploding. If that weren't enough: In a historical analysis, one finds that the whole notion that a series of logical functions acting upon authentic experiences and forming the basis for rational behavior is an idea cooked up by the same rich, white oppressors marx was going on about. And even more particularly, as an academic notion providing an analytical framework through which culture may be studied, it is sorely lacking and is rapidly being discarded by most folks born into the hyper-saturated media environment of the early 21st century in favor of more fluid and nuanced systems which take illogical, organic and non-linear factors into account. Throwing faith out with the bathwater (*) is a bad idea. It is a component of transcendental thought and a valid foundation for ideals that are crucial to human development, including universal human justice; and for some: character, personality and community. It is important that in our effort to expose and right the many wrongs religious systems have inflicted on humankind throughout history (and contemporarily) that we do not hurt more people in the process. Demonizing religion is appropriate to religion, in my opinion it is literally appropriate, actually. Spiritualism and spirituality, on the other hand are senses that have been ignored by most western disciplines but are no less valid then the classical five. As a practice they deserve respect and as a a set of phenomena they need more investigation, especially from the left. jonny (*) the bathwater is completely fetid, unbearable, i agree - and I share in your outrage. From lrpjak at verizon.net Sun Dec 2 11:54:33 2007 From: lrpjak at verizon.net (L Powsner) Date: Sun Dec 2 11:55:15 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Regarding the UU and Antioch In-Reply-To: <5A1BDA4D-0241-4E1B-8CAF-EB5008762D8D@baya.net> References: <5A1BDA4D-0241-4E1B-8CAF-EB5008762D8D@baya.net> Message-ID: Unitarian Universalist General Assembly is late June every year. Last year it was in Portland, OR and 5,697 attended including 303 youth (high school age). Antioch could get a table in the exhibit hall, but since it's primarily adult focused, it might be better to sponsor something for the youth. A meal would be very popular since those youth are super independent, often not attending with parents and not eating with them even if they are there. I know my son gets hungry at GA! * June 25-29, 2008 Ft. Lauderdale, FL * June 24-28, 2009 Salt Lake City, UT * June 23-27, 2010 Minneapolis, MN One of my son's classmates at our UU congregation is a student at Antioch now and another went a few years ago. I can't think of a more perfect recruitment zone than the UU community. I've always felt that the UU values with which I was raised were in synch with Antioch values. Laurie lrpjak@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: alumni-chat-bounces@w3.antioch.edu [mailto:alumni-chat-bounces@w3.antioch.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew Baya Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 8:41 AM To: Alumni Chat List Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] Regarding the UU and Antioch actually one real close connection is a current student, Julian Sharp, mentioned in his statement to the BOT at the August meeting that he had been on the Board of Trustees of the Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA) (which is the main organization for all UU chuches). Marshall Hawkins '92 is also a UU minister, and I suspect there are many others if we start shaking the UU/Antioch tree. I sense a Record/Antiochian article coming along here ;) And while I'm not sure about the coffee hour fundraising idea, if we can get Antioch admissions applications anywhere near UU teens that would be a great recruitment effort. Maybe Antioch could host a YRUU conference or sponsor some event that would attract UU youth. -Matt On Dec 1, 2007, at 2:28 AM, Dawn Scribner wrote: > > Richelle Russell, class of '8 (I think?) is a Unitarian minister and > leading > advocate for gay rights. She might be a good conduit for a > connection with > the church. > > > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _______________________________________________ Alumni-chat mailing list Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! From sjr5 at nyu.edu Sun Dec 2 13:59:13 2007 From: sjr5 at nyu.edu (Sonia Jaffe Robbins) Date: Sun Dec 2 14:03:39 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! In-Reply-To: <1b1896cc0712012100y496cdd57rff4cef031896ff96@mail.gmail.com> References: <476814.3170.qm@web55309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <1b1896cc0712012100y496cdd57rff4cef031896ff96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "Religion" is way too broad a term for this discussion; it's on a level with "politics" -- it's neither good nor bad in itself. "Religion" could be anything from the quasi-state of Vatican City and the property-owning Catholic Church to the megachurches of evangelical Protestantism, the long-established Protestant denominations, Judaism from Orthodox to Reconstructionist, Islam in all its various manifestations, Hinduism, and small groups of spiritually minded people who follow their own traditions they've made up themselves. I think it's pretty clear that established churches have, usually, attached themselves to wherever state power has been, but even this isn't absolute. Black churches were a locus for civil rights activity in the South, but even some white churches supported civil rights, and one friend of mine persuaded his Southern Baptist parents that racism was wrong by appealing to their religious beliefs. Yes, the Catholic Church supported the feudal antimodernism of fascist Spain, but liberation theology came out of Catholicism as well. The Catholic Church supported dissidents in Poland in the 1970s and '80s without requiring those they supported to be "believers," but once communism was gone, the Church immediately started demanding that the state support antiabortion laws, despite majority opinion supporting abortion rights. By the way, when I was at Antioch, there was a chapel in a little building across the street from the C-Shop, next door to Connor, a little house dorm (which I understand has been demolished), and the chaplain was named Howard Johnson. We used to say Antioch had religion in 31 flavors. (Now is that an age-related joke? How old does one have to be get that?) >On Dec 1, 2007 9:06 PM, YAZZ Allen wrote: > >> >> Hi from Yazz '66! >> >> I really disagree with the statement that strong anti-religion feelings at >> Antioch are not healthy. >> >On Dec 2, 2007, Jonny wrote: >the term religion ends up getting mixed up with spirituality, though. > -- Sonia Jaffe Robbins Antioch College, '60-'62, '64 sjr5@nyu.edu srobbins@reedbusiness.com http://www.neww.org.pl http://www.nyu.edu/classes/copyXediting ******************* "If you do not let the tie run come to the plate, you can never lose." --Mark Harris, in one of the Southpaw novels From matt at baya.net Sun Dec 2 16:06:02 2007 From: matt at baya.net (Matthew Baya) Date: Sun Dec 2 16:06:10 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! In-Reply-To: References: <476814.3170.qm@web55309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <1b1896cc0712012100y496cdd57rff4cef031896ff96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > By the way, when I was at Antioch, there was a chapel in a little > building across the street from the C-Shop, next door to Connor, a > little house dorm (which I understand has been demolished), The Rockford Chapel is still there and I believe the Yellow Springs Friends Meeting (quaker) meets there every week. The building that was recently demolished was the house across the street from it, Norment. > and the chaplain was named Howard Johnson. We used to say Antioch > had religion in 31 flavors. (Now is that an age-related joke? How > old does one have to be get that?) I'm 38 and I got it :) -Matt From judemers at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 17:24:50 2007 From: judemers at gmail.com (Jude Logan Demers) Date: Sun Dec 2 17:24:55 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Is There an Update Somewhere Message-ID: <20c4b6960712021424x48987894h3718ce75eb8b4735@mail.gmail.com> why can't we just start a new college run by us alumni. you can hire me as the first president dean of students to head the co-op department I'm not picky I'd like to chair the Spirituality Department of our new College -- love, peace, joy, light, knowledge, wisdom, and understanding om shanthi hallelujah amen om shanthi hallelujah amen om shanthi hallelujah amen From eayres at comcast.net Sun Dec 2 17:59:42 2007 From: eayres at comcast.net (E. Daniel Ayres) Date: Sun Dec 2 18:00:09 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] How about a UU Religious Studies chair? Message-ID: <000001c83537$06f03ca0$14d0b5e0$@net> I've been lurking but could not avoid piping up. Back in the 1950's it was primarily through the Unitarians that I learned about Antioch College. One of my early career objectives was to become a UU minister. I came to Antioch from LRY (The youth ministry which was merged by the Unitarians and the Universalists before they managed to merge the parent organizations). There were a lot of us on campus in the 1960's. I do not believe that there has been a college pastor at Antioch for some time. Insuring that there is one could be a task that the UU in Boston might actually be persuaded to adopt. I'm certainly going to start "pushing the idea" here at the UUAA (www.uuaa.org ) Lets' all try to find sustainable, practical steps which will help push the process of restoring and revitalizing the Antioch College program. Giving money with the restrictions recommended by the Antioch College alumnae board is still the most critical thing to do. Real money, not pledges, is what is desperately still needed. I'd like to see a financial report which says, this is what has been pledged, and this is what we have as spendable cash in hand. E. Daniel Ayres 734-395-9141 (cell) http://home.comcast.net/~eayres From jonny.no at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 18:27:45 2007 From: jonny.no at gmail.com (Jonny) Date: Sun Dec 2 18:27:50 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! In-Reply-To: References: <476814.3170.qm@web55309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <1b1896cc0712012100y496cdd57rff4cef031896ff96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1b1896cc0712021527u6f28b9ey1cebd25f8c0137df@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 2, 2007 1:59 PM, Sonia Jaffe Robbins wrote: > "Religion" is way too broad a term for this discussion; it's on a > level with "politics" -- it's neither good nor bad in itself. > Your point is well taken, I stand corrected... Perhaps narrowing the scope to 'organized religion' might have been a better way of framing it. thanks for these insightful comments... j From sjr5 at nyu.edu Sun Dec 2 22:08:41 2007 From: sjr5 at nyu.edu (Sonia Jaffe Robbins) Date: Sun Dec 2 22:07:16 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! In-Reply-To: References: <476814.3170.qm@web55309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <1b1896cc0712012100y496cdd57rff4cef031896ff96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think Connor was demolished longer ago than "recently." Connor was right across the street from Normant. When I was last in Yellow Springs, Connor was empty and its front porch was collapsing. I was told it was going to be torn down very soon. >>By the way, when I was at Antioch, there was a chapel in a little >>building across the street from the C-Shop, next door to Connor, a >>little house dorm (which I understand has been demolished), > >The Rockford Chapel is still there and I believe the Yellow Springs >Friends Meeting (quaker) meets there every week. The building that >was recently demolished was the house across the street from it, >Norment. > >>and the chaplain was named Howard Johnson. We used to say Antioch >>had religion in 31 flavors. (Now is that an age-related joke? How >>old does one have to be get that?) > >I'm 38 and I got it :) > >-Matt > > >_______________________________________________ >Alumni-chat mailing list >Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu >http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat >Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! -- Sonia Jaffe Robbins Antioch College, '60-'62, '64 sjr5@nyu.edu srobbins@reedbusiness.com http://www.neww.org.pl http://www.nyu.edu/classes/copyXediting ******************* "If you do not let the tie run come to the plate, you can never lose." --Mark Harris, in one of the Southpaw novels From matt at baya.net Sun Dec 2 22:41:16 2007 From: matt at baya.net (Matthew Baya) Date: Sun Dec 2 22:41:22 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! In-Reply-To: References: <476814.3170.qm@web55309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <1b1896cc0712012100y496cdd57rff4cef031896ff96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3B877FEF-8449-448E-9399-BC7607C7146F@baya.net> Connor House was indeed next to Rockford Chapel and it was torn down in 1988 or so. I was a student at that time and participated in it's 'funeral'. Norment was the dorm/house across the street which was condemned and burnt down (by the fire dept for training) last fall. -Matt On Dec 2, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Sonia Jaffe Robbins wrote: > I think Connor was demolished longer ago than "recently." Connor was > right across the street from Normant. When I was last in Yellow > Springs, Connor was empty and its front porch was collapsing. I was > told it was going to be torn down very soon. From aadole at roadrunner.com Mon Dec 3 12:28:55 2007 From: aadole at roadrunner.com (Art Dole) Date: Mon Dec 3 09:31:13 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12/1/07 8:54 AM, "Ed M Koziarski" wrote: > To truly reverse its closure, Antioch College needs to begin acting like > it?s open, and begin building on its vibrant academic foundation to grow > into a healthy, self-sufficient institution. > > To make this happen, Antioch must immediately: An interesting idea. What about our elected Alumni Board? Continued accreditation? Faculty and staff participation? And I would add: > >*Secure ownership of plant, grounds, and Glen, plus endowment, independent of AU. *Retain tenured faculty and as many support staff as possible. From Daniel.Spock at MNHS.ORG Mon Dec 3 11:26:58 2007 From: Daniel.Spock at MNHS.ORG (Spock, Dan) Date: Mon Dec 3 11:27:01 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think we are conflating Howard Johnson (28 flavors) with Baskin Robbins (31 flavors). Daniel Spock Director of Minnesota History Center Museum 345 Kellogg Blvd West St. Paul, Minnesota 55102 Tel: (651) 259-3050 Fax: (651) 297-8224 daniel.spock@mnhs.org -----Original Message----- From: alumni-chat-bounces@w3.antioch.edu [mailto:alumni-chat-bounces@w3.antioch.edu]On Behalf Of Sonia Jaffe Robbins Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:09 PM To: Alumni Chat List Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! I think Connor was demolished longer ago than "recently." Connor was right across the street from Normant. When I was last in Yellow Springs, Connor was empty and its front porch was collapsing. I was told it was going to be torn down very soon. >>By the way, when I was at Antioch, there was a chapel in a little >>building across the street from the C-Shop, next door to Connor, a >>little house dorm (which I understand has been demolished), > >The Rockford Chapel is still there and I believe the Yellow Springs >Friends Meeting (quaker) meets there every week. The building that >was recently demolished was the house across the street from it, >Norment. > >>and the chaplain was named Howard Johnson. We used to say Antioch >>had religion in 31 flavors. (Now is that an age-related joke? How >>old does one have to be get that?) > >I'm 38 and I got it :) > >-Matt > > >_______________________________________________ >Alumni-chat mailing list >Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu >http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat >Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! -- Sonia Jaffe Robbins Antioch College, '60-'62, '64 sjr5@nyu.edu srobbins@reedbusiness.com http://www.neww.org.pl http://www.nyu.edu/classes/copyXediting ******************* "If you do not let the tie run come to the plate, you can never lose." --Mark Harris, in one of the Southpaw novels _______________________________________________ Alumni-chat mailing list Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! From davidallenusa at yahoo.com Mon Dec 3 11:35:11 2007 From: davidallenusa at yahoo.com (YAZZ ALLEN) Date: Mon Dec 3 11:35:14 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Check out WWW.UTube.Com video material about current Antioch Crisis of 2007! It's wonderful! Message-ID: <236806.84643.qm@web52001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Dec. 3, 07 Hi from Yazz (David) Allen '66 (YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com)! The WWW.UTube.Com site is filled with Antioch College material relating to the revolt against the AU Trustee closedown attempt all worth seeing. I just learned about this, and urge others who haven't seen the UTube stuff about Antioch to check it out. Go to the UTube.Com home page and input ANTIOCH in the search term box. Great stuff recently posted is there! I wasn't looking for Antioch material when I learned about this. I was looking for Bob Dylan 60's song performances. Fell into incredible Bob Dylan song performances on UTube I was shocked were available, and FREE! Mr. Tambourine Man at Newport 1964, the Homesick Sub. song from DON'T LOOK BACK, Dylan singing LIKE A ROLLING STONE in 1966, and more. THEN, I discovered a bunch of Antioch College stuff on UTube, including a bunch of very touching testimonials from a "Save Antioch" picnic in Chicago IL last 8/18/07. Really tugged at my heartstrings. Here's the URL for part of that, if you're interested (paste it into your browser!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8o0Qw8hutc UTube is astonishing, and the possibilities are incredible, I'd say. Really comprehensive history of the current crisis and detailed, articulate and compelling polemics could and should be prepared on video and posted on UTube.Com, then publicized. It's a very dynamic way to tell the story of what's going on and what needs to happen in the near future. Best, Yazz (David) Allen '66 (YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com) ---- Contact "Yazz" (David) Allen directly via email at YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com, mail to 644 Shrewsbury Commons Ave., #239, Shrewsbury PA USA 17361...phone (717) 235 - 1982! See my movie actor photos and recent credits at WWW.IMDb.Com (world's largest movie info database, owned by Amazon.Com) IMDb RESUME. Also WWW.SAG.Org "IActor, "WWW.CastingNetworks.Com. --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. From edk at homesickblues.com Mon Dec 3 12:33:19 2007 From: edk at homesickblues.com (Ed M Koziarski) Date: Mon Dec 3 12:34:01 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Check out WWW.UTube.Com video material about current Antioch Crisis of 2007! It's wonderful! In-Reply-To: <236806.84643.qm@web52001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You can find all 32 Save Antioch video testimonials at http://www.youtube.com/groups_videos?name=antiochcollege Everyone is encouraged to record and post your own to the Save Antioch YouTube group. If you?re interested and need help figuring it out, write me. Ed M. Koziarski ?97 on 12/3/07 10:35 AM, YAZZ ALLEN at davidallenusa@yahoo.com wrote: > Dec. 3, 07 > > Hi from Yazz (David) Allen '66 (YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com)! > > The WWW.UTube.Com site is filled with Antioch College material relating to > the revolt against the AU Trustee closedown attempt all worth seeing. > > I just learned about this, and urge others who haven't seen the UTube stuff > about Antioch to check it out. > > Go to the UTube.Com home page and input ANTIOCH in the search term box. > Great stuff recently posted is there! > > I wasn't looking for Antioch material when I learned about this. I was > looking for Bob Dylan 60's song performances. Fell into incredible Bob Dylan > song performances on UTube I was shocked were available, and FREE! Mr. > Tambourine Man at Newport 1964, the Homesick Sub. song from DON'T LOOK BACK, > Dylan singing LIKE A ROLLING STONE in 1966, and more. > > THEN, I discovered a bunch of Antioch College stuff on UTube, including a > bunch of very touching testimonials from a "Save Antioch" picnic in Chicago IL > last 8/18/07. > > Really tugged at my heartstrings. > > Here's the URL for part of that, if you're interested (paste it into your > browser!): > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8o0Qw8hutc > > UTube is astonishing, and the possibilities are incredible, I'd say. > > Really comprehensive history of the current crisis and detailed, articulate > and compelling polemics could and should be prepared on video and posted on > UTube.Com, then publicized. It's a very dynamic way to tell the story of > what's going on and what needs to happen in the near future. > > Best, > Yazz (David) Allen '66 > (YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com) > > From jonny.no at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 13:04:22 2007 From: jonny.no at gmail.com (Jonny) Date: Mon Dec 3 13:04:25 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Check out WWW.UTube.Com video material about current Antioch Crisis of 2007! It's wonderful! In-Reply-To: References: <236806.84643.qm@web52001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1b1896cc0712031004l58f42956x54ba0456460d09c0@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 3, 2007 12:33 PM, Ed M Koziarski wrote: > You can find all 32 Save Antioch video testimonials at > http://www.youtube.com/groups_videos?name=antiochcollege > > Everyone is encouraged to record and post your own to the Save Antioch > YouTube group. If you?re interested and need help figuring it out, write > me. Add me to the list of those available to provide support in helping folks figure out how to get stuff online or navigate through any of the available online media portals. I can be reached via email: jonny.no@gmail.com jonny From lucy.wollin at verizon.net Mon Dec 3 14:03:25 2007 From: lucy.wollin at verizon.net (lwollin) Date: Mon Dec 3 14:03:30 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network References: Message-ID: <006e01c835df$2f4d8dd0$6401a8c0@DFL7B741> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed M Koziarski" To: "alumni chat" Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 11:54 AM Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network To truly reverse its closure, Antioch College needs to begin acting like it?s open, and begin building on its vibrant academic foundation to grow into a healthy, self-sufficient institution. To make this happen, Antioch must immediately: * establish the College Advisory Board and invest it with real authority, including hiring a College President * remove internal barriers and begin recruiting and admitting new and transfer students for Fall 2008 * restore tenure and remove the threat of firing that hangs over faculty and staff * maintain all academic and support services during renovations * hold leadership accountable for past decisions and statements * ensure an open and participatory decision making process * guarantee a commitment from leadership to operate on principles of openness and honesty * have leaders committed to the turnaround of Antioch College * call for respect in communications from all university officials so the College?s already challenging task isn?t made more difficult If you support this message, please lend your name to the cause by signing on to this statement at http://acan.antiochians.org/. We will contact you in the coming weeks with an invitation to become involved with the Antioch College Action Network, an independent collective of students, faculty, staff, alumni, villagers and friends of the college. Your email address will be used to no other ends. Sincerely, the Antioch College Action Network From lucy.wollin at verizon.net Mon Dec 3 14:05:27 2007 From: lucy.wollin at verizon.net (lwollin) Date: Mon Dec 3 14:06:11 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Rod Sterling '57 References: <200712012048.lB1KmAq6034542@bach.incentre.net> Message-ID: <007501c835df$779ebcd0$6401a8c0@DFL7B741> I suppose you mean Rod Serling '50? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Ulrich" To: Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: [Alumni-chat] Rod Sterling '57 > There is an interesting article about Rod Sterling in the current > issue of UU World, as well as three links to > additional information about Rod. He was able to creatively use the > Twilight Zone format to deal with a number of > controversial social issues that would not have been acceptable to > the networks in a regular TV format. > > He did one program on the life of Horace Mann. It would be great to > find a video of that program. > > The article can be accessed from: > > http://www.uuworld.org/life/articles/50619.shtml > > > Carl Ulrich 59 > Edmonton, Alberta Canada > > From david.apter at yale.edu Mon Dec 3 15:09:37 2007 From: david.apter at yale.edu (David Apter) Date: Mon Dec 3 15:10:27 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network In-Reply-To: <006e01c835df$2f4d8dd0$6401a8c0@DFL7B741> References: <006e01c835df$2f4d8dd0$6401a8c0@DFL7B741> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071203210905.0230bb28@yale.edu> I tried to sign on but am not sure it worked. David E. Apter At 02:03 PM 12/3/2007 -0500, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed M Koziarski" >To: "alumni chat" >Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 11:54 AM >Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network > > >To truly reverse its closure, Antioch College needs to begin acting like >it?s open, and begin building on its vibrant academic foundation to grow >into a healthy, self-sufficient institution. > >To make this happen, Antioch must immediately: > >* establish the College Advisory Board and invest it with real authority, >including hiring a College President >* remove internal barriers and begin recruiting and admitting new and >transfer students for Fall 2008 >* restore tenure and remove the threat of firing that hangs over faculty and >staff >* maintain all academic and support services during renovations >* hold leadership accountable for past decisions and statements >* ensure an open and participatory decision making process >* guarantee a commitment from leadership to operate on principles of >openness and honesty >* have leaders committed to the turnaround of Antioch College >* call for respect in communications from all university officials so the >College?s already challenging task isn?t made more difficult > >If you support this message, please lend your name to the cause by signing >on to this statement at http://acan.antiochians.org/. > >We will contact you in the coming weeks with an invitation to become >involved with the Antioch College Action Network, an independent collective >of students, faculty, staff, alumni, villagers and friends of the college. >Your email address will be used to no other ends. > >Sincerely, > >the Antioch College Action Network > > > >_______________________________________________ >Alumni-chat mailing list >Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu >http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat >Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! From edk at homesickblues.com Mon Dec 3 15:36:21 2007 From: edk at homesickblues.com (Ed M Koziarski) Date: Mon Dec 3 15:36:49 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071203210905.0230bb28@yale.edu> Message-ID: You should receive a confirmation email at the address you provided at http://acan.antiochians.org When you receive the confirmation email, click on the link it contains or paste the link into your browser. Then your name should appear on the site. Thanks! Ed M. Koziarski on 12/3/07 2:09 PM, David Apter at david.apter@yale.edu wrote: > I tried to sign on but am not sure it worked. > > David E. Apter > > > At 02:03 PM 12/3/2007 -0500, you wrote: > >> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed M Koziarski" >> >To: "alumni chat" >> >Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 11:54 AM >> >Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network >> > >> > >> >To truly reverse its closure, Antioch College needs to begin acting like >> >it?s open, and begin building on its vibrant academic foundation to grow >> >into a healthy, self-sufficient institution. >> > >> >To make this happen, Antioch must immediately: >> > >> >* establish the College Advisory Board and invest it with real authority, >> >including hiring a College President >> >* remove internal barriers and begin recruiting and admitting new and >> >transfer students for Fall 2008 >> >* restore tenure and remove the threat of firing that hangs over faculty and >> >staff >> >* maintain all academic and support services during renovations >> >* hold leadership accountable for past decisions and statements >> >* ensure an open and participatory decision making process >> >* guarantee a commitment from leadership to operate on principles of >> >openness and honesty >> >* have leaders committed to the turnaround of Antioch College >> >* call for respect in communications from all university officials so the >> >College?s already challenging task isn?t made more difficult >> > >> >If you support this message, please lend your name to the cause by signing >> >on to this statement at http://acan.antiochians.org/. >> > >> >We will contact you in the coming weeks with an invitation to become >> >involved with the Antioch College Action Network, an independent collective >> >of students, faculty, staff, alumni, villagers and friends of the college. >> >Your email address will be used to no other ends. >> > >> >Sincerely, >> > >> >the Antioch College Action Network >> > >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Alumni-chat mailing list >> >Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu >> >http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat >> >Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! > > > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! -- From davidrogerallen at hotmail.com Mon Dec 3 16:20:02 2007 From: davidrogerallen at hotmail.com (YAZZ Allen) Date: Mon Dec 3 16:20:07 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Rod Serling, 1950, not 1957! In-Reply-To: <007501c835df$779ebcd0$6401a8c0@DFL7B741> References: <200712012048.lB1KmAq6034542@bach.incentre.net> <007501c835df$779ebcd0$6401a8c0@DFL7B741> Message-ID: Dec. 3, 07 Hi from Yazz '66! Yes, Rod Serling definitely finished and got his BA from Antioch in 1950, not 1957! He finished high school in Binghamton NY, served in the Army Air Force as a pilot during WWII, and entered Antioch after the war on the GI Bill. He married his girlfriend and the two had a trailor located on the present Antioch Inn parking lot. Antioch was filled with many married ex-GI's in the late 40's, attending Antioch on the GI Bill (Clifford Geerts '50, who became one of the world's most famous anthopologists was one of them...an undergrad along with Serling). By 1957, he was a famous Hollywood and national TV figure with PLAYHOUSE 90 drama script credits already his (e.g. PATTERNS and REQUIEM FOR A HEAVYWEIGHT), and THE TWILIGHT ZONE was soon to appear. His older brother, Robert Serling '43, also a writer, attended Antioch. He was famous for writing about aircraft and was a specialist in that field as well as a fiction writer. He wrote THE PRESIDENT'S PLANE IS MISSING and was based in Wash. DC. Rod Serling taught at Antioch during the Fall 1962 quarter, two courses. One was a writing course, and the other (which I took!) was MASS MEDIA: FILMS AND TELEVISION. Antiochian Walter "Bucky" Wanger Jr. '65 was also a student in that same class (there were about a dozen of us). Bucky was the son of Walter Wanger Sr., who produced STAGECOACH (1939) and ran all production at 20th Century Fox Studios for many years, and Joan Bennett, one of the most beautiful actresses in the Hollywood of her day. I knew Bucky well, but had no idea he was descended from Hollywood royalty during his time at Antioch. Serling stayed in touch students he taught at Antioch, and helped both Bucky Wanger and I in Hollywood when we were there in the early 1970's. By this time, Rod Serling had a show titled NIGHT GALLERY. He told me in 1970 most of his money came from doing TV commercials as a spokeperson for big corporations. Just like Ronald Reagan! But not exactly, I'm glad to say! Best, Yazz '66 --------------------- Contact "Yazz" (David) Allen directly via email at YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com, mail to 644 Shrewsbury Commons Ave., #239, Shrewsbury PA USA 17361...Phone (717) 235 - 1982! See my pro movie actor photos and recent credits/resume by visiting WWW.IMDb.Com (world's largest movie info database, owned by Amazon.Com) IMDb RESUME. Also WWW.SAG.Org "IActor" file. Also WWW.CastingNetworks.Com and/or WWW.NYCasting.Com. > Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 14:05:27 -0500> From: lucy.wollin@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] Rod Sterling '57> To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> > I suppose you mean Rod Serling '50?> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl Ulrich" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 3:47 PM> Subject: [Alumni-chat] Rod Sterling '57> > > > There is an interesting article about Rod Sterling in the current > > issue of UU World, as well as three links to> > additional information about Rod. He was able to creatively use the > > Twilight Zone format to deal with a number of> > controversial social issues that would not have been acceptable to > > the networks in a regular TV format.> > > > He did one program on the life of Horace Mann. It would be great to > > find a video of that program.> > > > The article can be accessed from:> > > > http://www.uuworld.org/life/articles/50619.shtml> > > > > > Carl Ulrich 59> > Edmonton, Alberta Canada> > > >> > _______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 From jeschreier at yahoo.com Mon Dec 3 16:47:18 2007 From: jeschreier at yahoo.com (Jean Schreier) Date: Mon Dec 3 16:47:21 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Re: Alumni-chat Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <20071202190343.5B8B162E0E8D@w3.antioch.edu> Message-ID: <896807.47048.qm@web58914.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi all, When I was at Antioch '65-'69 it seemed to me that many of the students were Quakers or had attended Quaker schools (particularly Germantown Friends in Philadelphia, as I recall) and that little chapel, as it is so quaintly referred to, I believe was primarily regarded as a Friends Meeting House. Al Denman, Professor Emeritus of Philosphy was the college chaplain. Since I know that Al is still participating, to some degree, in meetings regarding the college, I think he should be looked to as a potentially unique resource at this time. He is a warm and wonderful person and an extremely creative thinker (as many, if not all of you, probably know). He's been at the College throughout many administrations and perservered through thick and thin. If he is not already participating to the fullest extent of his ability and desire, he should be encouraged to do so, particularly with regard to reformatting of the curriculum around themes of comparative religion, cultural and societal differences and commonalities. During my last year at Antioch, Al and I organized a Peace Quarter which involved developing large scale multimedia offereings as well as symposia and seminars which were open to the broader Yellow Springs community as well as Antioch students. I believe this was the first, or one of the first, college offerings relating to Peace Studies in the U.S. Ultimately Paul Smoker, with whom I did grad work in Peace Research and Conflict Resolution in England in 1970, came to Antioch and held an endowed chair in Peace Studies (which I assume no longer exists). I do think that students attracted to Antioch throughout the years have been interested and involved in social justice issues, as well as spirituality (vs religion). I think that finding a way to distinguish Antioch from other colleges who have adopted many of its most innovative ideas is crucial if it is to survive. I myself also attended Antioch New England as a grad student from 1991 to 1993. While there, I used to say that I had gone to the "real" Antioch and that the grad school bore little resemblance to the college because it was so hierarchical and non-communally oriented (admittedly at a disadvantage in the latter department, since students in each program were only on "campus" one day a week -- a different day for each discipline). In speaking with faculty at the grad school since I graduated (and myself taught as a adjunct there) I was always aware of a tremendous amount of resentment that was held by at least that program toward the college (which was seen as sucking all the money from the satellites and granting tenure to college faculty and paying them higher wages than faculty at the satellites. Most of them knew very little about the college. Many had never been to Y.S. These days, as they hear of my concern that Antioch not be allowed to die, they challenge my commitment to an educational institution that, in their view, is no longer relevant in today's world, where "most colleges offer study abroad and work programs and often give evals. instead of grades woo students with the best of everything material including high tuition rebates (Williams etc.). When I tell them that I KNOW that there are still students out there who are looking for a more unconventional school which will challenge them to be all that they can be, to explore all that they are interested in ---wherever it may lead them --- and to "be ashamed to die until they have won some victory for humanity," they tell me , with a certain disdain, that I just don't understand what higher education is about today. Well, maybe I don't. Maybe all students today are looking for the school that will give them the quickest route to financial success... as well as an iphone and laptop for just enrolling! But I doubt it. When I was applying to college, no one at my guidance office and even some of my friends understood why I did not want to go to one of the seven sisters or, at the very least, Berkeley or U. of Chicago. Why did I want to go to Antioch? How had I heard about it anyway? (Well from a grad I met through the mother of a friend of mine who knew I was looking for something a bit different.) Well I knew why then and I can imagine that now there are some students who will want to go there, even as perhaps the ceilings over their heads are being repaired or repainted. It's just not all about the stuff . It never has been and I don't think it will be. I think the younger generations who demand that that there be more to their lives than 18 hour work days may be turning around and want to see what they can do to make sure that there are still roses to smell, should they chose to do so. Jean Schreier '69 P.S. Maybe the BOT should look into renting the unused campus of Northfield-Mt. Herman, a private school in Northfield MA, that outgrew it's original campus. I understand that it has been well maintained, although it is not used. The campus always reminds me of Antioch when I drive by. alumni-chat-request@w3.antioch.edu wrote: Send Alumni-chat mailing list submissions to alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to alumni-chat-request@w3.antioch.edu You can reach the person managing the list at alumni-chat-owner@w3.antioch.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Alumni-chat digest..." Today's Topics: 1. I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College (Jude Logan Demers) 2. RE: I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College (YAZZ Allen) 3. Re: I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College (grinrose@aol.com) 4. RE: I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College (YAZZ Allen) 5. Regarding the UU and Antioch (Dawn Scribner) 6. Re: Regarding the UU and Antioch (Matthew Baya) 7. Antioch College Action Network (Ed M Koziarski) 8. Rod Sterling '57 (Carl Ulrich) 9. The Christians are Coming! The Christians are Coming! (TheBangaloreBlue) 10. Re: Antioch College Action Network (Robert Abrams) 11. The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! (YAZZ Allen) 12. Re: The Christians are Coming! The Christians are Coming! (Jonny) 13. Re: The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! (Jonny) 14. RE: Regarding the UU and Antioch (L Powsner) 15. Re: The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! (Sonia Jaffe Robbins) From: "Jude Logan Demers" To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:49:03 -0500 Subject: [Alumni-chat] I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College New News about the New School in NYC My brother Max Demers is graduating in the nest few months with a BFA. We are all so proud of him that we have decided to write the Antioch College Alumni chatter box chat room of podcasts webcasts forums bullitins instant messaging you tube my space face book google it Yahoo I'm having so much fun looking at my Windows on my IBM lap top think pad Wi Fi You see what I'm getting at? THe world makes perfect sense now how about co-founding a college all of us Antioch College ALumni with our money from our Revival instead of dealing with the crooks let them steal their own money and get out of our bussiness With Love, Jude Logan Demers BA Antioch COllege nineteen ninety seven in the self designed combined double major of Performance Art and Cross Cultural Studies -- love, peace, joy, light, knowledge, wisdom, and understanding om shanthi hallelujah amen om shanthi hallelujah amen om shanthi hallelujah amen From: YAZZ Allen To: Alumni Chat List Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:52:40 -0500 Subject: RE: [Alumni-chat] I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College Nov. 30, 07 Hi from Yazz Allen '66 (YazzAllen@yahoo.com)! Jude Logan Demers '77 is wonderful person with good ideas, whoever he or she is! How terrific to send an annoucement about her/his sibling finishing at The New School (For Social Research....for those in the know!). Also, how terrific to propose founding a new school, and leaving the old one to the crooks/raiders who continue to plunder without apologies! Antiochians who attended Antioch during the Bill Behrenbaum Antioch Presidency (like Jude '77) are not publicized enough, but every time I have contact with one, hear their good ideas, I'm always impressed! Behrenbaum had bad publicity, but I think he ran a good school during those "Dark Ages" years of 1976-84! What good people the kids of his era all seem to be! Best, Yazz '66 --------------------- Contact "Yazz" (David) Allen directly via email at YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com, mail to 644 Shrewsbury Commons Ave., #239, Shrewsbury PA USA 17361...Phone (717) 235 - 1982! See my pro movie actor photos and recent credits/resume by visiting WWW.IMDb.Com (world's largest movie info database, owned by Amazon.Com) IMDb RESUME. Also WWW.SAG.Org "IActor" file. Also WWW.CastingNetworks.Com and/or WWW.NYCasting.Com. > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:49:03 -0500> From: judemers@gmail.com> To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> Subject: [Alumni-chat] I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College> > New News about the New School in NYC> My brother Max Demers is graduating in the nest few months with a BFA. We> are all so proud of him that we have decided to write the Antioch College> Alumni chatter box chat room of podcasts webcasts forums bullitins instant> messaging you tube my space face book google it> Yahoo I'm having so much fun looking at my Windows on my IBM lap top think> pad Wi Fi> You see what I'm getting at?> THe world makes perfect sense now> how about co-founding a college all of us Antioch College ALumni with our> money from our Revival instead of dealing with the crooks let them steal> their own money and get out of our bussiness> With Love,> Jude Logan Demers BA Antioch COllege nineteen ninety seven in the self> designed combined double major of Performance Art and Cross Cultural Studies> > -- > love, peace, joy, light, knowledge, wisdom, and understanding> om shanthi hallelujah amen> om shanthi hallelujah amen> om shanthi hallelujah amen> _______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 From: grinrose@aol.com To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:19:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College Actually Jude is from the class of 1997.? He attended?during the presidencies of Guskin, Crowfoot,?and Devine.?? -megan '97 -----Original Message----- From: YAZZ Allen To: Alumni Chat List Sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 5:52 pm Subject: RE: [Alumni-chat] I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College Nov. 30, 07 Hi from Yazz Allen '66 (YazzAllen@yahoo.com)! Jude Logan Demers '77 is wonderful person with good ideas, whoever he or she is! How terrific to send an annoucement about her/his sibling finishing at The New School (For Social Research....for those in the know!). Also, how terrific to propose founding a new school, and leaving the old one to the crooks/raiders who continue to plunder without apologies! Antiochians who attended Antioch during the Bill Behrenbaum Antioch Presidency (like Jude '77) are not publicized enough, but every time I have contact with one, hear their good ideas, I'm always impressed! Behrenbaum had bad publicity, but I think he ran a good school during those "Dark Ages" years of 1976-84! What good people the kids of his era all seem to be! Best, Yazz '66 --------------------- Contact "Yazz" (David) Allen directly via email at YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com, mail to 644 Shrewsbury Commons Ave., #239, Shrewsbury PA USA 17361...Phone (717) 235 - 1982! See my pro movie actor photos and recent credits/resume by visiting WWW.IMDb.Com (world's largest movie info database, owned by Amazon.Com) IMDb RESUME. Also WWW.SAG.Org "IActor" file. Also WWW.CastingNetworks.Com and/or WWW.NYCasting.Com. > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:49:03 -0500> From: judemers@gmail.com> To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> Subject: [Alumni-chat] I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College> > New News about the New School in NYC> My brother Max Demers is graduating in the nest few months with a BFA. We> are all so proud of him that we have decided to write the Antioch College> Alumni chatter box chat room of podcasts webcasts forums bullitins instant> messaging you tube my space face book google it> Yahoo I'm having so much fun looking at my Windows on my IBM lap top think> pad Wi Fi> You see what I'm getting at?> THe world makes perfect sense now> how about co-founding a college all of us Antioch College ALumni with our> money from our Revival instead of dealing with the crooks let them steal> their own money and get out of our bussiness> With Love,> Jude Logan Demers BA Antioch COllege nineteen ninety seven in the self> designed combined double major of Performance Art and Cross Cultural Studies> > -- > love, peace, joy, light, knowledge, wisdom, and understanding> om shanthi hallelujah amen> om shanthi hallelujah amen> om shanthi hallelujah amen> _______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007_______________________________________________ Alumni-chat mailing list Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003 From: YAZZ Allen To: Alumni Chat List Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:53:34 -0500 Subject: RE: [Alumni-chat] I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College Nov. 30, 07 Hi! Thanks for correcting my wrong announcement that Jude was from the class of '77! The words (not mumerals, which maybe were the problem) "ninety nine" were there in the message. I mis-read them, and apologize. Well..............he didn't study during the times of William Birenbaum, but...I thought his message was pretty good....anyway! Thanks again for the correction. I apologize for getting it wrong. Best, Yazz '66 --------------------- Contact "Yazz" (David) Allen directly via email at YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com, mail to 644 Shrewsbury Commons Ave., #239, Shrewsbury PA USA 17361...Phone (717) 235 - 1982! See my pro movie actor photos and recent credits/resume by visiting WWW.IMDb.Com (world's largest movie info database, owned by Amazon.Com) IMDb RESUME. Also WWW.SAG.Org "IActor" file. Also WWW.CastingNetworks.Com and/or WWW.NYCasting.Com. > To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:19:06 -0500> From: grinrose@aol.com> > Actually Jude is from the class of 1997.? He attended?during the presidencies of Guskin, Crowfoot,?and Devine.?? > > -megan '97> > > -----Original Message-----> From: YAZZ Allen > To: Alumni Chat List > Sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 5:52 pm> Subject: RE: [Alumni-chat] I Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College> > > > > Nov. 30, 07> > Hi from Yazz Allen '66 (YazzAllen@yahoo.com)!> > Jude Logan Demers '77 is wonderful person with good ideas, whoever he or she is!> > How terrific to send an annoucement about her/his sibling finishing at The New > School (For Social Research....for those in the know!).> > Also, how terrific to propose founding a new school, and leaving the old one to > the crooks/raiders who continue to plunder without apologies!> > Antiochians who attended Antioch during the Bill Behrenbaum Antioch Presidency > (like Jude '77) are not publicized enough, but every time I have contact with > one, hear their good ideas, I'm always impressed!> > Behrenbaum had bad publicity, but I think he ran a good school during those > "Dark Ages" years of 1976-84! What good people the kids of his era all seem to > be!> > Best,> Yazz '66> > ---------------------> Contact "Yazz" (David) Allen directly via email at YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com, mail to > 644 Shrewsbury Commons Ave., #239, Shrewsbury PA USA 17361...Phone (717) 235 - > 1982!> > See my pro movie actor photos and recent credits/resume by visiting WWW.IMDb.Com > (world's largest movie info database, owned by Amazon.Com) IMDb RESUME. Also > WWW.SAG.Org "IActor" file. Also WWW.CastingNetworks.Com and/or > WWW.NYCasting.Com. > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:49:03 -0500> From: > judemers@gmail.com> To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> Subject: [Alumni-chat] I > Can't Believe Antioch University is not Antioch College> > New News about the > New School in NYC> My brother Max Demers is graduating in the nest few months > with a BFA. We> are all so proud of him that we have decided to write the > Antioch College> Alumni chatter box chat room of podcasts webcasts forums > bullitins instant> messaging you tube my space face book google it> Yahoo I'm > having so much fun looking at my Windows on my IBM lap top think> pad Wi Fi> You > see what I'm getting at?> THe world makes perfect sense now> how about > co-founding a college all of us Antioch College ALumni with our> money from our > Revival instead of dealing with the crooks let them steal> their own money and > get out of our bussiness> With Love,> Jude Logan Demers BA Antioch COllege > nineteen ninety seven in the self> designed combined double major of Performance > Art and Cross Cultural Studies> > -- > love, peace, joy, light, knowledge, > wisdom, and understanding> om shanthi hallelujah amen> om shanthi hallelujah > amen> om shanthi hallelujah amen> _______________________________________________> > Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today!> _________________________________________________________________> Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE!> http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007_______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today!> > > ________________________________________________________________________> More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003> _______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline From: Dawn Scribner To: Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:28:56 -0800 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Regarding the UU and Antioch Richelle Russell, class of '8 (I think?) is a Unitarian minister and leading advocate for gay rights. She might be a good conduit for a connection with the church. From: Matthew Baya To: Alumni Chat List Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 08:40:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] Regarding the UU and Antioch actually one real close connection is a current student, Julian Sharp, mentioned in his statement to the BOT at the August meeting that he had been on the Board of Trustees of the Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA) (which is the main organization for all UU chuches). Marshall Hawkins '92 is also a UU minister, and I suspect there are many others if we start shaking the UU/Antioch tree. I sense a Record/Antiochian article coming along here ;) And while I'm not sure about the coffee hour fundraising idea, if we can get Antioch admissions applications anywhere near UU teens that would be a great recruitment effort. Maybe Antioch could host a YRUU conference or sponsor some event that would attract UU youth. -Matt On Dec 1, 2007, at 2:28 AM, Dawn Scribner wrote: > > Richelle Russell, class of '8 (I think?) is a Unitarian minister and > leading > advocate for gay rights. She might be a good conduit for a > connection with > the church. > > > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! From: Ed M Koziarski To: alumni chat Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:54:08 -0600 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network To truly reverse its closure, Antioch College needs to begin acting like it?s open, and begin building on its vibrant academic foundation to grow into a healthy, self-sufficient institution. To make this happen, Antioch must immediately: * establish the College Advisory Board and invest it with real authority, including hiring a College President * remove internal barriers and begin recruiting and admitting new and transfer students for Fall 2008 * restore tenure and remove the threat of firing that hangs over faculty and staff * maintain all academic and support services during renovations * hold leadership accountable for past decisions and statements * ensure an open and participatory decision making process * guarantee a commitment from leadership to operate on principles of openness and honesty * have leaders committed to the turnaround of Antioch College * call for respect in communications from all university officials so the College?s already challenging task isn?t made more difficult If you support this message, please lend your name to the cause by signing on to this statement at http://acan.antiochians.org/. We will contact you in the coming weeks with an invitation to become involved with the Antioch College Action Network, an independent collective of students, faculty, staff, alumni, villagers and friends of the college. Your email address will be used to no other ends. Sincerely, the Antioch College Action Network From: Carl Ulrich To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:47:45 -0700 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Rod Sterling '57 There is an interesting article about Rod Sterling in the current issue of UU World, as well as three links to additional information about Rod. He was able to creatively use the Twilight Zone format to deal with a number of controversial social issues that would not have been acceptable to the networks in a regular TV format. He did one program on the life of Horace Mann. It would be great to find a video of that program. The article can be accessed from: http://www.uuworld.org/life/articles/50619.shtml Carl Ulrich 59 Edmonton, Alberta Canada From: TheBangaloreBlue To: Alumni Chat List Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:34:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming! The Christians are Coming! I think Antioch needs to re-establish it's connection to the progressive/liberal faith community, specifically Christian Churches. One currently exists, but I feel it is not intentional. I feel the strong -anti-religion atmosphere at Antioch is not healthy. I find it ironic, because most students at Antioch identify as being passionate about Social Justice, a term and idology created and implemented by the Roman Catholic Church. Dawn Scribner wrote: Richelle Russell, class of '8 (I think?) is a Unitarian minister and leading advocate for gay rights. She might be a good conduit for a connection with the Christian Church. _______________________________________________ Alumni-chat mailing list Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. From: "Robert Abrams" To: Alumni Chat List Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:58:40 GMT Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network To Ed Kozarski: I support your statement but cannot use the link supplied. AVE ATQUE VALE (Hail and farewell-the gladiator's salutation) -----Original Message----- From: Ed M Koziarski Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2007 11:54 AM To: alumni chat Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Action Network To truly reverse its closure, Antioch College needs to begin acting like it???s open, and begin building on its vibrant academic foundation to grow into a healthy, self-sufficient institution. To make this happen, Antioch must immediately: * establish the College Advisory Board and invest it with real authority, including hiring a College President * remove internal barriers and begin recruiting and admitting new and transfer students for Fall 2008 * restore tenure and remove the threat of firing that hangs over faculty and staff * maintain all academic and support services during renovations * hold leadership accountable for past decisions and statements * ensure an open and participatory decision making process * guarantee a commitment from leadership to operate on principles of openness and honesty * have leaders committed to the turnaround of Antioch College * call for respect in communications from all university officials so the College???s already challenging task isn???t made more difficult If you support this message, please lend your name to the cause by signing on to this statement at http://acan.antiochians.org/. We will contact you in the coming weeks with an invitation to become involved with the Antioch College Action Network, an independent collective of students, faculty, staff, alumni, villagers and friends of the college. Your email address will be used to no other ends. Sincerely, the Antioch College Action Network _______________________________________________ Alumni-chat mailing list Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! From: YAZZ Allen To: Alumni Chat List Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 21:06:28 -0500 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! Hi from Yazz '66! I really disagree with the statement that strong anti-religion feelings at Antioch are not healthy. I think such feelings are very healthy. Religion, as Marx accurately stated, is the opiate of the people, or one of the opiates, anyway. Religion is substitute for logic and dependence on actual experience. It celebrates the "blessed are they that believe but haven't seen" thing, which is idiotic. It's based on real estate everywhere, and its a grim substitute for culture and progress, which religion when powerful always opposes. This history of religion speaks for itself. It's a shameful history. Antiochians who are not religious are intelligent, and I'm one of them! I'm glad Antiioch was never seriously religious. That speaks well for Antioch. I hope that tradition continues. Best, Yazz '66 --------------------- Contact "Yazz" (David) Allen directly via email at YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com, mail to 644 Shrewsbury Commons Ave., #239, Shrewsbury PA USA 17361...Phone (717) 235 - 1982! See my pro movie actor photos and recent credits/resume by visiting WWW.IMDb.Com (world's largest movie info database, owned by Amazon.Com) IMDb RESUME. Also WWW.SAG.Org "IActor" file. Also WWW.CastingNetworks.Com and/or WWW.NYCasting.Com. > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:34:23 -0800> From: thebangaloreblue@yahoo.com> To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming! The Christians are Coming!> > I think Antioch needs to re-establish it's connection to the progressive/liberal faith community, specifically Christian Churches. One currently exists, but I feel it is not intentional. > > I feel the strong -anti-religion atmosphere at Antioch is not healthy. I find it ironic, because most students at Antioch identify as being passionate about Social Justice, a term and idology created and implemented by the Roman Catholic Church. > > Dawn Scribner wrote:> > Richelle Russell, class of '8 (I think?) is a Unitarian minister and leading> advocate for gay rights. She might be a good conduit for a connection with> the Christian Church. > > > _______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today!> > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.> _______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 From: Jonny To: "Alumni Chat List" Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 23:13:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming! The Christians are Coming! On Dec 1, 2007 4:34 PM, TheBangaloreBlue wrote: > strong -anti-religion I'm pretty certain this was foundational to the teachings of (the historical) Jesus long before the church ever added 'establishment' to his teachings. I could cite passages but that would be a bit overwhelming for all of us, i think. > Social Justice, a term and idology created and implemented by the Roman > Catholic Church. I dunno about 'created', but they have implemented such programs, tis true. This tends to get overlooked when viewed next to mishaps like... um, the entire middle ages, really; so the catholic spin may not be as effective in this particular context. I would agree that christians and antioch do share more in common then they don't, though. But I'm not referring to the christian majority; only to the earliest christians, who shared everything in common and adopted a consensus based system of governance where men and women participated equally in decision making, according to recent research. In addition, they apparently took care of the ill and elderly among themselves, a practice that sets them apart from all but the wealthiest of urban dwelling populations at the time, where most understandably saw that as way too risky. Turns out they developed community resistances to many of the things that were killing large numbers of folks on a regular basis, and thus in having a higher rate of survival plus resisting allegiance to the empire became unlikely threats to it's union, at which point they were promptly co-opted by an appropriation committee during the reign of Emperor Constantine. As for the environment here: In my time I have not seen any indication that Antioch is anti-christian. Anti-religion, yes - very much so, but this completely agrees with the teachings of jesus. It is the re-branding of 'christian' that is the problem. The brand got hijacked, is all. Hmm. Remind anyone of anything? Contrary to popular opinion, one could argue the 'brand' got started much earlier then 1853. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try > it now. > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! > -- Jonny Estes NEW TEL#: 6147980914 (till 10pm) AIM: sixy777 !=marketing Open source e-marketing | Data & web solutions e: jonny.no@gmail.com From: Jonny To: "Alumni Chat List" Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 00:00:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! On Dec 1, 2007 9:06 PM, YAZZ Allen wrote: > > Hi from Yazz '66! > > I really disagree with the statement that strong anti-religion feelings at > Antioch are not healthy. > the term religion ends up getting mixed up with spirituality, though. > ...logic and dependence on actual experience. It celebrates the "blessed > are they that believe but haven't seen" thing, which is idiotic. I disagree completely. Western rational thought is equally if not more idiotic: For instance I'm not convinced that what I've not experienced isn't just as real as what I have, or that things outside of my ability to perceive them don't exist, thus I'm not convinced that my perception allows for an authentic subjective representation of any objective reality Plus, there is a also good chance our space-time continuum is merely a filter applied to our neurobiology to keep us from exploding. If that weren't enough: In a historical analysis, one finds that the whole notion that a series of logical functions acting upon authentic experiences and forming the basis for rational behavior is an idea cooked up by the same rich, white oppressors marx was going on about. And even more particularly, as an academic notion providing an analytical framework through which culture may be studied, it is sorely lacking and is rapidly being discarded by most folks born into the hyper-saturated media environment of the early 21st century in favor of more fluid and nuanced systems which take illogical, organic and non-linear factors into account. Throwing faith out with the bathwater (*) is a bad idea. It is a component of transcendental thought and a valid foundation for ideals that are crucial to human development, including universal human justice; and for some: character, personality and community. It is important that in our effort to expose and right the many wrongs religious systems have inflicted on humankind throughout history (and contemporarily) that we do not hurt more people in the process. Demonizing religion is appropriate to religion, in my opinion it is literally appropriate, actually. Spiritualism and spirituality, on the other hand are senses that have been ignored by most western disciplines but are no less valid then the classical five. As a practice they deserve respect and as a a set of phenomena they need more investigation, especially from the left. jonny (*) the bathwater is completely fetid, unbearable, i agree - and I share in your outrage. From: "L Powsner" CC: admissions@antioch-college.edu To: "'Alumni Chat List'" Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 11:54:33 -0500 Subject: RE: [Alumni-chat] Regarding the UU and Antioch Unitarian Universalist General Assembly is late June every year. Last year it was in Portland, OR and 5,697 attended including 303 youth (high school age). Antioch could get a table in the exhibit hall, but since it's primarily adult focused, it might be better to sponsor something for the youth. A meal would be very popular since those youth are super independent, often not attending with parents and not eating with them even if they are there. I know my son gets hungry at GA! * June 25-29, 2008 Ft. Lauderdale, FL * June 24-28, 2009 Salt Lake City, UT * June 23-27, 2010 Minneapolis, MN One of my son's classmates at our UU congregation is a student at Antioch now and another went a few years ago. I can't think of a more perfect recruitment zone than the UU community. I've always felt that the UU values with which I was raised were in synch with Antioch values. Laurie lrpjak@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: alumni-chat-bounces@w3.antioch.edu [mailto:alumni-chat-bounces@w3.antioch.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew Baya Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 8:41 AM To: Alumni Chat List Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] Regarding the UU and Antioch actually one real close connection is a current student, Julian Sharp, mentioned in his statement to the BOT at the August meeting that he had been on the Board of Trustees of the Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA) (which is the main organization for all UU chuches). Marshall Hawkins '92 is also a UU minister, and I suspect there are many others if we start shaking the UU/Antioch tree. I sense a Record/Antiochian article coming along here ;) And while I'm not sure about the coffee hour fundraising idea, if we can get Antioch admissions applications anywhere near UU teens that would be a great recruitment effort. Maybe Antioch could host a YRUU conference or sponsor some event that would attract UU youth. -Matt On Dec 1, 2007, at 2:28 AM, Dawn Scribner wrote: > > Richelle Russell, class of '8 (I think?) is a Unitarian minister and > leading > advocate for gay rights. She might be a good conduit for a > connection with > the church. > > > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _______________________________________________ Alumni-chat mailing list Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! From: Sonia Jaffe Robbins To: Alumni Chat List Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:59:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! "Religion" is way too broad a term for this discussion; it's on a level with "politics" -- it's neither good nor bad in itself. "Religion" could be anything from the quasi-state of Vatican City and the property-owning Catholic Church to the megachurches of evangelical Protestantism, the long-established Protestant denominations, Judaism from Orthodox to Reconstructionist, Islam in all its various manifestations, Hinduism, and small groups of spiritually minded people who follow their own traditions they've made up themselves. I think it's pretty clear that established churches have, usually, attached themselves to wherever state power has been, but even this isn't absolute. Black churches were a locus for civil rights activity in the South, but even some white churches supported civil rights, and one friend of mine persuaded his Southern Baptist parents that racism was wrong by appealing to their religious beliefs. Yes, the Catholic Church supported the feudal antimodernism of fascist Spain, but liberation theology came out of Catholicism as well. The Catholic Church supported dissidents in Poland in the 1970s and '80s without requiring those they supported to be "believers," but once communism was gone, the Church immediately started demanding that the state support antiabortion laws, despite majority opinion supporting abortion rights. By the way, when I was at Antioch, there was a chapel in a little building across the street from the C-Shop, next door to Connor, a little house dorm (which I understand has been demolished), and the chaplain was named Howard Johnson. We used to say Antioch had religion in 31 flavors. (Now is that an age-related joke? How old does one have to be get that?) >On Dec 1, 2007 9:06 PM, YAZZ Allen wrote: > >> >> Hi from Yazz '66! >> >> I really disagree with the statement that strong anti-religion feelings at >> Antioch are not healthy. >> >On Dec 2, 2007, Jonny wrote: >the term religion ends up getting mixed up with spirituality, though. > -- Sonia Jaffe Robbins Antioch College, '60-'62, '64 sjr5@nyu.edu srobbins@reedbusiness.com http://www.neww.org.pl http://www.nyu.edu/classes/copyXediting ******************* "If you do not let the tie run come to the plate, you can never lose." --Mark Harris, in one of the Southpaw novels _______________________________________________ Alumni-chat mailing list Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. From jmeltzer at vh.net Mon Dec 3 22:15:16 2007 From: jmeltzer at vh.net (Jan Meltzer) Date: Mon Dec 3 22:15:13 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Re: Alumni-chat Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <20071203214723.CF2B562E5323@w3.antioch.edu> References: <20071203214723.CF2B562E5323@w3.antioch.edu> Message-ID: <4754C644.5010303@vh.net> Matt, I was married in Rockford Chapel in 1967. Al Denman was Chaplain then, and it was the Friends' Meeting house. A Humanist Counselor performed the ceremony and the wife of Connie Pelekoudas played harpsichord, which was carried over from the music dept. by friends. Jan Brown Meltzer '69 From mark at mekaminski.com Tue Dec 4 01:24:40 2007 From: mark at mekaminski.com (Mark Swanholm) Date: Tue Dec 4 01:24:49 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Re: Alumni-chat Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <4754C644.5010303@vh.net> References: <20071203214723.CF2B562E5323@w3.antioch.edu> <4754C644.5010303@vh.net> Message-ID: <88FF8902-AAE6-4F28-9EAC-EA4954649C89@mekaminski.com> Al of course is still around - Connie was there when Matt and I were students - despite the things that dont change too many have. Mark Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Jan Meltzer wrote: > Matt, I was married in Rockford Chapel in 1967. Al Denman was > Chaplain then, and it was the Friends' Meeting house. A Humanist > Counselor performed the ceremony and the wife of Connie Pelekoudas > played harpsichord, which was carried over from the music dept. by > friends. > Jan Brown Meltzer '69 > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! > From matt at baya.net Tue Dec 4 14:41:05 2007 From: matt at baya.net (Matthew Baya) Date: Tue Dec 4 14:41:09 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: Research query References: <010c01c83698$8a124080$6401a8c0@Megan1> Message-ID: <498304EE-4F1B-434D-B3E3-E6CE9CDA4DAB@baya.net> I am forwarding this on to some other lists on Megan's behalf. Be sure to send responses to her at rosenfeldm@verizon.net -Matt > From: "megan rosenfeld" > Date: December 4, 2007 12:09:25 PM EST > To: > Subject: Research query > Reply-To: dcantioch@googlegroups.com > > I would very much appreciate it if anyone who reads this would send > me a list of all the co-op jobs you had while you were at Antioch. > > This is not scientific, but it is research.Commentary is > permissible, but not necessary. (i.e. "this job changed my life," > or "I nearly died here," etc. > > You can send to me direct at rosenfeldm@verizon.net From judemers at gmail.com Tue Dec 4 15:25:09 2007 From: judemers at gmail.com (Jude Logan Demers) Date: Tue Dec 4 15:25:11 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Alumni, Jude Logan Demers has invited you to open a Google mail account Message-ID: <20c4b6960712041225xe486b2n@mail.gmail.com> I've been using Gmail and thought you might like to try it out. 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Thanks, The Gmail Team (If clicking the URLs in this message does not work, copy and paste them into the address bar of your browser). From sjr5 at nyu.edu Tue Dec 4 20:50:27 2007 From: sjr5 at nyu.edu (Sonia Jaffe Robbins) Date: Tue Dec 4 20:56:21 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are Coming? I hope not! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That came to me this afternoon at lunch. My daughter told me last night that Baskin Robbins (no relation) was 31 flavors. >I think we are conflating Howard Johnson (28 flavors) with Baskin >Robbins (31 flavors). > >Daniel Spock >Director of Minnesota History Center Museum >345 Kellogg Blvd West >St. Paul, Minnesota 55102 >Tel: (651) 259-3050 >Fax: (651) 297-8224 >daniel.spock@mnhs.org > > >-----Original Message----- >From: alumni-chat-bounces@w3.antioch.edu >[mailto:alumni-chat-bounces@w3.antioch.edu]On Behalf Of Sonia Jaffe >Robbins >Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:09 PM >To: Alumni Chat List >Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] The Christians are Coming? The Christians are >Coming? I hope not! > > >I think Connor was demolished longer ago than "recently." Connor was >right across the street from Normant. When I was last in Yellow >Springs, Connor was empty and its front porch was collapsing. I was >told it was going to be torn down very soon. > >>>By the way, when I was at Antioch, there was a chapel in a little >>>building across the street from the C-Shop, next door to Connor, a >>>little house dorm (which I understand has been demolished), >> >>The Rockford Chapel is still there and I believe the Yellow Springs >>Friends Meeting (quaker) meets there every week. The building that >>was recently demolished was the house across the street from it, >>Norment. >> >>>and the chaplain was named Howard Johnson. We used to say Antioch >>>had religion in 31 flavors. (Now is that an age-related joke? How >>>old does one have to be get that?) >> >>I'm 38 and I got it :) >> >>-Matt >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Alumni-chat mailing list >>Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu >>http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat >>Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! > > >-- >Sonia Jaffe Robbins >Antioch College, '60-'62, '64 >sjr5@nyu.edu srobbins@reedbusiness.com >http://www.neww.org.pl http://www.nyu.edu/classes/copyXediting > >******************* >"If you do not let the tie run come to the plate, you can never lose." >--Mark Harris, in one of the Southpaw novels >_______________________________________________ >Alumni-chat mailing list >Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu >http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat >Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! >_______________________________________________ >Alumni-chat mailing list >Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu >http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat >Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! -- Sonia Jaffe Robbins Antioch College, '60-'62, '64 sjr5@nyu.edu srobbins@reedbusiness.com http://www.neww.org.pl http://www.nyu.edu/classes/copyXediting ******************* "If you do not let the tie run come to the plate, you can never lose." --Mark Harris, in one of the Southpaw novels From duffy at antioch-college.edu Thu Dec 6 09:34:58 2007 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Thu Dec 6 09:34:47 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: the solution to enrollment problems? Message-ID: Don't have time to tawk right now but thought folks might find this interesting...Duffy Happy start of Holiday madness will get back to all when the snow and dust clear. ----- Original Message ----- Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:36:50 PM Pulse From: Christine Smith Subject: the solution to enrollment problems? To: Pulse Today's NYT had a story about a college on the brink of closure, that is having increased enrollment as a result of a film about the school. Know any Hollywood filmmakers? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/education/05wiley.html?em&ex=1197003600&en=cf8b1cca44cf3011&ei=5087%0A From jdavid at coldren.net Thu Dec 6 10:30:07 2007 From: jdavid at coldren.net (J. David Coldren) Date: Thu Dec 6 10:31:07 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: the solution to enrollment problems? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <032301c8381c$e5026bc0$af074340$@net> As a matter of fact, our own Richard Basch has floated a proposal for such a film. mailto:rb@richardbasch.com J. David Coldren '65 -----Original Message----- From: alumni-chat-bounces@w3.antioch.edu [mailto:alumni-chat-bounces@w3.antioch.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Duffy Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:35 AM To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu; acalumboard@w3.antioch.edu Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: the solution to enrollment problems? Don't have time to tawk right now but thought folks might find this interesting...Duffy Happy start of Holiday madness will get back to all when the snow and dust clear. ----- Original Message ----- Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:36:50 PM Pulse From: Christine Smith Subject: the solution to enrollment problems? To: Pulse Today's NYT had a story about a college on the brink of closure, that is having increased enrollment as a result of a film about the school. Know any Hollywood filmmakers? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/education/05wiley.html?em&ex=1197003600&en =cf8b1cca44cf3011&ei=5087%0A _______________________________________________ Alumni-chat mailing list Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! From rgrimes at antioch-college.edu Thu Dec 6 13:05:59 2007 From: rgrimes at antioch-college.edu (Risa Grimes) Date: Thu Dec 6 13:05:47 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Re: [Alumni Board] Fwd: the solution to enrollment problems? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think Dave Chappelle could do one of his movies and highlight Antioch.... "Steven Duffy" writes: >Don't have time to tawk right now but thought folks might find this >interesting...Duffy >Happy start of Holiday madness will get back to all when the snow and >dust clear. >----- Original Message ----- > > Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:36:50 PM >Pulse >From: Christine Smith >Subject: the solution to enrollment problems? >To: Pulse > > Today's NYT had a story about a college on the brink of closure, that is >having increased enrollment as a result of a film about the school. Know >any Hollywood filmmakers? > >[ >http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/education/05wiley.html?em&ex=1197003600&en=cf8b1cca44cf3011&ei=5087%0A >]http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/education/05wiley.html?em&ex=1197003600&en=cf8b1cca44cf3011&ei=5087%0A > > _______________________________________________ >Acalumboard mailing list >Acalumboard@w3.antioch.edu >http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/acalumboard From mbrower32 at comcast.net Thu Dec 6 13:23:48 2007 From: mbrower32 at comcast.net (Michael Brower) Date: Thu Dec 6 13:23:55 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Re: [Alumni Board] Fwd: the solution to enrollment problems? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2443981E-DA2E-41FA-9EA8-E26E9A2B607A@comcast.net> John Korty '59 is a successful film maker with his own film company. Her is what our web site says of him: Antioch College Noteworthy Alumni John Korty ?59 is a director, producer, writer, and film animator. Korty has dozens of feature films, TV movies, and documentaries to his credit. ... www.antioch-college.edu/Alumni/noteworthy/ categorylist.php? category=Arts+%26+Letters - 38 I think some of his films have won prizes. And, he is a strong Antioch supporter. -- Mike Brower On Dec 6, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Risa Grimes wrote: > I think Dave Chappelle could do one of his movies and highlight > Antioch.... > > "Steven Duffy" writes: > Don't have time to tawk right now but thought folks might find this > interesting...Duffy > Happy start of Holiday madness will get back to all when the snow > and dust clear. > ----- Original Message ----- > > Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:36:50 PM > Pulse > From: Christine Smith > Subject: the solution to enrollment problems? > To: Pulse > > Today's NYT had a story about a college on the brink of closure, > that is having increased enrollment as a result of a film about the > school. Know any Hollywood filmmakers? > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/education/05wiley.html?em&ex=1197003600&en=cf8b1cca44cf3011&ei=5087%0A > > _______________________________________________ > Acalumboard mailing list > Acalumboard@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/acalumboard > > _______________________________________________ > Acalumboard mailing list > Acalumboard@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/acalumboard From pas0705 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 7 09:23:48 2007 From: pas0705 at yahoo.com (Laura Fathauer) Date: Fri Dec 7 09:23:51 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Record online Message-ID: <652732.35492.qm@web63902.mail.re1.yahoo.com> This weeks Record & the two front page stories are now online at: http://recordonline.org Excerpts of the two front page articles: --------------------------------------------- Students Pack Up, Donors Push Forward by Eva Erickson and Kim-Jenna Jurriaans Today the University Board of trustees is voting on a proposal put forward by the deep- pocket donors in support of an autonomous Antioch College. As the community awaits the outcome of the vote that is likely to determine the level of operations at the college in future months, community members try hard to adapt to campus life under continuing insecurity. A group of major donors, over the course of the last month, has taken a collective stance against the outcome of the October 25 summit between the University Trustees and the College Alumni Board, that outlines the future relations between the college and the university. After a preliminary meeting in New York City, last week Monday, donors and representatives of the Trustees met again on Sunday at a session of the Board?s governance committee in Dallas to discuss the donors? demands. Now the Trustees are voting as a full Board. -------------------- IT Continuing Problem for College Community by Alex Borowicz As the term exhales its final waking breaths into the snow-filled December air, students scramble to finish final papers and senior projects. Besides the late nights, slippery walkways, and myriad of distractions, Antioch students face one obstacle that has been plaguing the school for months: feeble internet speed that leaves all community members fighting for their own chunk of cyberspace. Not 10 years ago, before the heydays of file sharing, Antioch was the proud owner of a T1 connection that brought internet to students, staff, faculty, and administrators. T1 lines are capable of transmitting at speeds of 1.5 megabytes per second for both uploading and downloading. These days however, speeds have fallen to merely a fraction of their former rates. Even with the proliferation of the internet and its increased accessibility, Antioch College has been reduced to around half that speed, suggesting that perhaps the college is now being given only a partial T1 line. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From duffy at antioch-college.edu Fri Dec 7 09:27:04 2007 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Fri Dec 7 09:26:50 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: Article about Antioch and Finacial Exigency Message-ID: A student posted this internally but it is a good one to pass around. Last day of term here...snowy and students heading home. duffy Happy holidaze all. ----- Original Message ----- Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:17:34 PM Announcements From: Emma Emmerich Subject: Article about Antioch and Finacial Exigency To: Announcements This article is really important for all antiochians to read. About the state of the college. http://www.ysnews.com/stories/2007/12/120607_Antioch_idea.html From pas0705 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 7 09:37:32 2007 From: pas0705 at yahoo.com (Laura Fathauer) Date: Fri Dec 7 09:37:36 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: Article about Antioch and Finacial Exigency In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <541436.77618.qm@web63907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> There are two other good things to read in this weeks YS news: ------------------------------------------- http://www.ysnews.com/stories/2007/12/120607_DonorsTrustees.html Donors, trustees negotiate on future of Antioch College As next week?s second financial benchmark nears for the Antioch College Alumni Board to turn over additional funds to Antioch University, major donors, university trustees, alumni board leaders and former trustees are continuing an intense discussion on the proposed governance for the college. The conversations took place last week in New York City and this week in Dallas, and according to a Dallas participant who wished to remain anonymous, ?no conclusions? have yet been reached. The board of trustees will further consider the donors? concerns around the governance issue in a conference call this Thursday, Dec. 6 --------------------------------- Editorial- Diane Chiddister http://www.ysnews.com/editorial/index.html Antioch College needs to keep its dedicated and talented faculty. It needs its current feisty and passionate students, and it needs to begin recruiting new students as well. These steps are clearly in the college?s best interest, and an empowered, independent board would have only the college?s best interest in mind. The last month has made clear that the college must have autonomy. The trustees took a bold step in November when they reversed their previous decision to close the college. Now they need to take a second bold step. They need to give the college they all love the empowerment it must have to prosper --- Steven Duffy wrote: > A student posted this internally but it is a good one to pass > around. > Last day of term here...snowy and students heading home. duffy > Happy holidaze all. > ----- Original Message ----- > > Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:17:34 PM > Announcements > From: Emma Emmerich > Subject: Article about Antioch and Finacial Exigency > To: Announcements > > This article is really important for all antiochians to read. > About the > state of the college. > > http://www.ysnews.com/stories/2007/12/120607_Antioch_idea.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From thanos at post.com Fri Dec 7 15:05:38 2007 From: thanos at post.com (thanos) Date: Fri Dec 7 15:05:41 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] re: Article about Antioch and Finacial Exigency Message-ID: <20071207200539.1CBD710434@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Can someone please write a description of the BoT's position? What are the sticking points that keep these discussions going on and on? There are personality conflicts and distrust etc., but what is the substance of the problem? Happy holidays everyone. T -- 10 Great Gift Ideas- Take a Look! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 From duffy at antioch-college.edu Fri Dec 7 15:14:59 2007 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Fri Dec 7 15:14:43 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] re: Article about Antioch and Finacial Exigency In-Reply-To: <20071207200539.1CBD710434@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20071207200539.1CBD710434@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Kali spera! Thanos!!! Duffy From thanos at post.com Fri Dec 7 15:28:12 2007 From: thanos at post.com (thanos) Date: Fri Dec 7 15:28:16 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] re: Article about Antioch and Finacial Exigency Message-ID: <20071207202812.3166C1642AE@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Γιά σου ρε Ντάφυ! Greeklish: Gia sou re Ntafu! -- 10 Great Gift Ideas- Take a Look! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 From imabused at aol.com Fri Dec 7 19:07:12 2007 From: imabused at aol.com (imabused@aol.com) Date: Fri Dec 7 19:10:22 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] re: Article about Antioch and Finacial Exigency Message-ID: <8CA07456AB3E730-BB4-46DA@mblk-d21.sysops.aol.com> Thanos it's about saving face, avoiding lawsuits ... about?accumulation of power and money ...?and it's about using lies to distract the overly trusting stakeholders. How are the board members to explain their position? They will not be able to. Jane Slater Class of '80 ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003 From timothynoble at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 01:28:54 2007 From: timothynoble at gmail.com (Tim Noble) Date: Sat Dec 8 01:28:57 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] the latest non-news and further admissions sabotage Message-ID: Careful observers will note that the link to the "common application" (which is necessary to apply to Antioch as a transfer student) was removed this afternoon from the admissions portion of the college website. Sources suggest that Lynda Sirk is directly responsible. Why has the means of applying has been deliberately removed from the page that announces we're accepting applications? Does anyone really believe that the University wants the college to succeed after the long list of insults we've had to endure during this period of "collaboration"? If this year ends without resignations by folks responsible for the grand disaster visited on Antioch, i won't be surprised. But, i will be disappointed. Tim Noble '02 Just posted on the official college site: http://www.antioch-college.edu/news/releases/index.php?id=203 Antioch News Release Date: December 7, 2007 Antioch University Board of Trustees Continues Collaboration Statement issued to faculty, staff and students Friday evening YELLOW SPRINGS, OHIO ? The University Board of Trustees met on Dec. 6th to continue its discussions about plans currently being developed in concert with alumni and donors to ensure Antioch College's financial stability and academic excellence. The Board is making significant progress in these deliberations, and will issue a further statement as soon as possible to communicate its progress more fully to the entire community. "The current state of our discussions is extremely encouraging," said Art Zucker, chairman of the University Board of Trustees. "I am optimistic that our diligent work will result in an agreement that will build on the unprecedented support of the entire Antioch family. In the interim, we ask that all parties remain patient as we work to secure the future of Antioch College." -- "In fact, it's an immense task to try to propose a few possibilities, in the plural?a few possibilities other than what we are told is possible. It is a matter of showing how the space of the possible is larger than the one assigned?that something else is possible,but not that everything is possible." ? Alain Badiou From thanos at post.com Sat Dec 8 14:27:35 2007 From: thanos at post.com (thanos) Date: Sat Dec 8 14:27:39 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] re: Article about Antioch and Finacial Exigency Message-ID: <20071208192735.E5264478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> But the board members are explaining their positions very clearly to the AB and the deep-pocket alums. I recognize that some negotiations and certain kinds of persuasion have to be done in secrecy, but I've lost track of the sticking points these days & wonder what's going on. Clearly the BoT's backtracked from its original plans - is it really threatening to backtrack again? Or are governance issues tying everything in knots? Surely the BoT's standpoint isn't secret. Have I missed an article or something? >Thanos it's about saving face, avoiding lawsuits ... >about?accumulation of power and money ...?and it's >about using lies to distract the overly trusting >stakeholders. How are the board members to explain >their position? They will not be able to. Jane Slater Class of '80 -- 10 Great Gift Ideas- Take a Look! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 From sjr5 at nyu.edu Sat Dec 8 16:04:55 2007 From: sjr5 at nyu.edu (Sonia Jaffe Robbins) Date: Sat Dec 8 16:09:20 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Re: [Alumni Board] Fwd: the solution to enrollment problems? In-Reply-To: <2443981E-DA2E-41FA-9EA8-E26E9A2B607A@comcast.net> References: <2443981E-DA2E-41FA-9EA8-E26E9A2B607A@comcast.net> Message-ID: Vicki Hochberg, '64, is also a filmmaker and director. Maybe these folks could get together? How long does it take to make a film? >John Korty '59 is a successful film maker with his own film company. > >Her is what our web site says of him: Antioch College Noteworthy Alumni >John Korty '59 is a director, producer, writer, and film animator. >Korty has dozens of feature films, TV movies, and documentaries to >his credit. ... >www.antioch-college.edu/Alumni/noteworthy/ >categorylist.php?category=Arts+%26+Letters - 38 > >I think some of his films have won prizes. And, he is a strong >Antioch supporter. > >-- Mike Brower > > >On Dec 6, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Risa Grimes wrote: > >>I think Dave Chappelle could do one of his movies and highlight Antioch.... >> >>"Steven Duffy" writes: >>Don't have time to tawk right now but thought folks might find this >>interesting...Duffy >>Happy start of Holiday madness will get back to all when the snow >>and dust clear. >>----- Original Message ----- >> >> Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:36:50 PM >>Pulse >>From: Christine Smith >>Subject: the solution to enrollment problems? >>To: Pulse >> >> Today's NYT had a story about a college on the brink of closure, >>that is having increased enrollment as a result of a film about the >>school. Know any Hollywood filmmakers? >> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/education/05wiley.html?em&ex=1197003600&en=cf8b1cca44cf3011&ei=5087%0A >> >> _______________________________________________ >>Acalumboard mailing list >>Acalumboard@w3.antioch.edu >>http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/acalumboard >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Acalumboard mailing list >>Acalumboard@w3.antioch.edu >>http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/acalumboard > >_______________________________________________ >Alumni-chat mailing list >Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu >http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat >Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! -- Sonia Jaffe Robbins Antioch College, '60-'62, '64 sjr5@nyu.edu srobbins@reedbusiness.com http://www.neww.org.pl http://www.nyu.edu/classes/copyXediting ******************* "If you do not let the tie run come to the plate, you can never lose." --Mark Harris, in one of the Southpaw novels From timothynoble at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 16:33:04 2007 From: timothynoble at gmail.com (Tim Noble) Date: Sat Dec 8 16:33:08 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Re: the latest non-news and further admissions sabotage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Breaking news from the Record on another case of electronic identity theft, related to this application link disappearance: http://recordonline.org/2007/12/08/dude-where%e2%80%99s-my-application/ On Dec 8, 2007 1:28 AM, Tim Noble wrote: > Careful observers will note that the link to the "common application" > (which is necessary to apply to Antioch as a transfer student) was > removed this afternoon from the admissions portion of the college > website. Sources suggest that Lynda Sirk is directly responsible. > Why has the means of applying has been deliberately removed from the > page that announces we're accepting applications? Does anyone really > believe that the University wants the college to succeed after the > long list of insults we've had to endure during this period of > "collaboration"? If this year ends without resignations by folks > responsible for the grand disaster visited on Antioch, i won't be > surprised. But, i will be disappointed. > > Tim Noble '02 > > Just posted on the official college site: > http://www.antioch-college.edu/news/releases/index.php?id=203 > > Antioch News > Release Date: December 7, 2007 > Antioch University Board of Trustees Continues Collaboration > Statement issued to faculty, staff and students Friday evening > > YELLOW SPRINGS, OHIO ? The University Board of Trustees met on Dec. > 6th to continue its discussions about plans currently being developed > in concert with alumni and donors to ensure Antioch College's > financial stability and academic excellence. The Board is making > significant progress in these deliberations, and will issue a further > statement as soon as possible to communicate its progress more fully > to the entire community. > > "The current state of our discussions is extremely encouraging," said > Art Zucker, chairman of the University Board of Trustees. "I am > optimistic that our diligent work will result in an agreement that > will build on the unprecedented support of the entire Antioch family. > In the interim, we ask that all parties remain patient as we work to > secure the future of Antioch College." > > > -- > "In fact, it's an immense task to try to propose a few possibilities, > in the plural?a few possibilities other than what we are told is > possible. It is a matter of showing how the space of the possible is > larger than the one assigned?that something else is possible,but not > that everything is possible." ? Alain Badiou > -- "In fact, it's an immense task to try to propose a few possibilities, in the plural?a few possibilities other than what we are told is possible. It is a matter of showing how the space of the possible is larger than the one assigned?that something else is possible,but not that everything is possible." ? Alain Badiou From matt at baya.net Sat Dec 8 17:48:22 2007 From: matt at baya.net (Matthew Baya) Date: Sat Dec 8 17:48:31 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Re: the latest non-news and further admissions sabotage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <047A6C40-0BFF-4583-999D-9B586DF634DE@baya.net> In response to the e-mails about Linda Sirk's using someone elses computer without their permission as detailed at http://recordonline.org/2007/12/08/dude-where%e2%80%99s-my-application/ I respond with: http://www.antioch-college.edu/Campus/academic/AC_Computing_Policy.pdf Some highlights: " It is never permitted to use another person?s computer authorization for any purpose or to provide your own authorization to another. It is never permitted to access someone else?s work without explicit permission. It is not permitted to engage in any activity that would harass others or impede their work. " So Linda Sirk just violated the Antioch College Computing Policy which is an ADCIL approved policy. Not to mention the Honor Code. What does it take to get someone fired or at least put on probation these days? or are admins untouchable these days and those pesky policies only apply to students? Can someone get this info to someone on ADCIL to raise it as an agenda item? -Matt On Dec 8, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Tim Noble wrote: > Breaking news from the Record on another case of electronic identity > theft, related to this application link disappearance: > http://recordonline.org/2007/12/08/dude-where%e2%80%99s-my- > application/ > > > > > On Dec 8, 2007 1:28 AM, Tim Noble wrote: >> Careful observers will note that the link to the "common application" >> (which is necessary to apply to Antioch as a transfer student) was >> removed this afternoon from the admissions portion of the college >> website. Sources suggest that Lynda Sirk is directly responsible. >> Why has the means of applying has been deliberately removed from the >> page that announces we're accepting applications? Does anyone really >> believe that the University wants the college to succeed after the >> long list of insults we've had to endure during this period of >> "collaboration"? If this year ends without resignations by folks >> responsible for the grand disaster visited on Antioch, i won't be >> surprised. But, i will be disappointed. >> >> Tim Noble '02 >> >> Just posted on the official college site: >> http://www.antioch-college.edu/news/releases/index.php?id=203 >> >> Antioch News >> Release Date: December 7, 2007 >> Antioch University Board of Trustees Continues Collaboration >> Statement issued to faculty, staff and students Friday evening >> >> YELLOW SPRINGS, OHIO ? The University Board of Trustees met on Dec. >> 6th to continue its discussions about plans currently being developed >> in concert with alumni and donors to ensure Antioch College's >> financial stability and academic excellence. The Board is making >> significant progress in these deliberations, and will issue a further >> statement as soon as possible to communicate its progress more fully >> to the entire community. >> >> "The current state of our discussions is extremely encouraging," said >> Art Zucker, chairman of the University Board of Trustees. "I am >> optimistic that our diligent work will result in an agreement that >> will build on the unprecedented support of the entire Antioch family. >> In the interim, we ask that all parties remain patient as we work to >> secure the future of Antioch College." >> >> >> -- >> "In fact, it's an immense task to try to propose a few possibilities, >> in the plural?a few possibilities other than what we are told is >> possible. It is a matter of showing how the space of the possible is >> larger than the one assigned?that something else is possible,but not >> that everything is possible." ? Alain Badiou >> > > > > -- > "In fact, it's an immense task to try to propose a few possibilities, > in the plural?a few possibilities other than what we are told is > possible. It is a matter of showing how the space of the possible is > larger than the one assigned?that something else is possible,but not > that everything is possible." ? Alain Badiou > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! From jonny.no at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 20:43:33 2007 From: jonny.no at gmail.com (Jonny) Date: Sat Dec 8 20:43:43 2007 Subject: [Communications-Web] [Alumni-chat] Re: the latest non-news and further admissions sabotage In-Reply-To: <047A6C40-0BFF-4583-999D-9B586DF634DE@baya.net> References: <047A6C40-0BFF-4583-999D-9B586DF634DE@baya.net> Message-ID: <1b1896cc0712081743j239c52dbk5640c9c21b3ffa48@mail.gmail.com> I read through as many NACAC and FERPA documents as I could find last night and for the life of me I can't find a document providing the basis for this. The common app stuff is up on both antiochians.org domain and on the antiochflashpoint.org domain, as far as I know. For those who do not know the flashpoint urls, here is the one I'm suggesting to cg that the campus-based admissions folks (students & cg) use: http://archive.antiochflashpoint.org you'll notice that parts of that site are broken or incomplete. This is because I was all but told to cease working on it, since I would be denied access to the database that would make it somewhat useful. This was after the student groups were told in a 'training' session that they would be allowed access to the data in no uncertain terms. This provided me with 2 week's worth of preparatory work and high expectations, all of which were rendered null by the news that 'we' had change 'our' minds. I can't find any NACAC or FERPA documents which provide a basis for these activities, and I've traced that back to the legislative acts themselves - but I'm not a lawyer i suppose; rather I should behave according to my minorial status in serving our illustrious protectors and saviors. Sirk is not our only concern. There are mulitple elements with an interest in co-opting the student + cg / college efforts to recruit. Some might be explained by identifying motivations corresponding with prior activities as they relate to the behavior of the Alumni Board. Let the record show I was not silent. On Dec 8, 2007 5:48 PM, Matthew Baya wrote: > In response to the e-mails about Linda Sirk's using someone elses > computer without their permission as detailed at > http://recordonline.org/2007/12/08/dude-where%e2%80%99s-my-application/ > > I respond with: > > http://www.antioch-college.edu/Campus/academic/AC_Computing_Policy.pdf > > Some highlights: > > " It is never permitted to use another person's computer authorization > for any purpose or to provide your own authorization to another. > It is never permitted to access someone else's work without explicit > permission. > It is not permitted to engage in any activity that would harass others > or impede their work. " > > So Linda Sirk just violated the Antioch College Computing Policy which > is an ADCIL approved policy. Not to mention the Honor Code. What does > it take to get someone fired or at least put on probation these days? > or are admins untouchable these days and those pesky policies only > apply to students? Can someone get this info to someone on ADCIL to > raise it as an agenda item? > > -Matt > > On Dec 8, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Tim Noble wrote: > > > Breaking news from the Record on another case of electronic identity > > theft, related to this application link disappearance: > > http://recordonline.org/2007/12/08/dude-where%e2%80%99s-my- > > application/ > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 2007 1:28 AM, Tim Noble wrote: > >> Careful observers will note that the link to the "common application" > >> (which is necessary to apply to Antioch as a transfer student) was > >> removed this afternoon from the admissions portion of the college > >> website. Sources suggest that Lynda Sirk is directly responsible. > >> Why has the means of applying has been deliberately removed from the > >> page that announces we're accepting applications? Does anyone really > >> believe that the University wants the college to succeed after the > >> long list of insults we've had to endure during this period of > >> "collaboration"? If this year ends without resignations by folks > >> responsible for the grand disaster visited on Antioch, i won't be > >> surprised. But, i will be disappointed. > >> > >> Tim Noble '02 > >> > >> Just posted on the official college site: > >> http://www.antioch-college.edu/news/releases/index.php?id=203 > >> > >> Antioch News > >> Release Date: December 7, 2007 > >> Antioch University Board of Trustees Continues Collaboration > >> Statement issued to faculty, staff and students Friday evening > >> > >> YELLOW SPRINGS, OHIO ? The University Board of Trustees met on Dec. > >> 6th to continue its discussions about plans currently being developed > >> in concert with alumni and donors to ensure Antioch College's > >> financial stability and academic excellence. The Board is making > >> significant progress in these deliberations, and will issue a further > >> statement as soon as possible to communicate its progress more fully > >> to the entire community. > >> > >> "The current state of our discussions is extremely encouraging," said > >> Art Zucker, chairman of the University Board of Trustees. "I am > >> optimistic that our diligent work will result in an agreement that > >> will build on the unprecedented support of the entire Antioch family. > >> In the interim, we ask that all parties remain patient as we work to > >> secure the future of Antioch College." > >> > >> > >> -- > >> "In fact, it's an immense task to try to propose a few possibilities, > >> in the plural?a few possibilities other than what we are told is > >> possible. It is a matter of showing how the space of the possible is > >> larger than the one assigned?that something else is possible,but not > >> that everything is possible." ? Alain Badiou > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > "In fact, it's an immense task to try to propose a few possibilities, > > in the plural?a few possibilities other than what we are told is > > possible. It is a matter of showing how the space of the possible is > > larger than the one assigned?that something else is possible,but not > > that everything is possible." ? Alain Badiou > > _______________________________________________ > > Alumni-chat mailing list > > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! > > > _______________________________________________ > Communications-web mailing list > Communications-web@antiochians.org > http://antiochians.org/mailman/listinfo/communications-web_antiochians.org > -- Jonny Estes NEW TEL#: 6147980914 (till 10pm) AIM: sixy777 !=marketing Open source e-marketing | Data & web solutions e: jonny.no@gmail.com From jonny.no at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 20:56:47 2007 From: jonny.no at gmail.com (Jonny) Date: Sat Dec 8 20:56:51 2007 Subject: [Communications-Web] [Alumni-chat] Re: the latest non-news and further admissions sabotage In-Reply-To: <047A6C40-0BFF-4583-999D-9B586DF634DE@baya.net> References: <047A6C40-0BFF-4583-999D-9B586DF634DE@baya.net> Message-ID: <1b1896cc0712081756n546a2799sb8090993f28a7cd1@mail.gmail.com> Ok, it's a wacky conspiricy theory, but I'm guessing the 'common app link removal' is diversionary; it seems to have only a symbolic impact - the real reason for that "root session" that Sirk took at Robin's 'terminal' was to remove Robin's access to certain university assets, in order to get them away from Campus where the network environment is inherently insecure - or to remove the assets themselves, for the same reason. But our story is far from finished. Our Next episode includes removing the actual personnel that were ever close to those assets, and then our series finale: removing all memory those assets ever existed, so don't touch that dial - we'll be back after these messages. From pas0705 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 8 22:01:33 2007 From: pas0705 at yahoo.com (Laura Fathauer) Date: Sat Dec 8 22:01:37 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Statement from friday night Message-ID: <701838.45792.qm@web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com> The statement from Friday night is interesting in that the text of the message is, as far as I can tell, only the 2nd time that the 'trust'ees have been referred to as the "University Board of Trustees". Most of the other press releases reference them as the Antioch Board of Trustees or the Antioch University Board of Trustees. Probably doesn't mean much, but interesting nevertheless. oh, and don't see "The golden compass" in the theater.. wait till it comes out on video if you truly feel you have to see it. -l http://www.antioch-college.edu/news/releases/index.php?id=203 Antioch University Board of Trustees Continues Collaboration Statement issued to faculty, staff and students Friday evening YELLOW SPRINGS, OHIO ? The University Board of Trustees met on Dec. 6th to continue its discussions about plans currently being developed in concert with alumni and donors to ensure Antioch College?s financial stability and academic excellence. The Board is making significant progress in these deliberations, and will issue a further statement as soon as possible to communicate its progress more fully to the entire community. ?The current state of our discussions is extremely encouraging,? said Art Zucker, chairman of the University Board of Trustees. ?I am optimistic that our diligent work will result in an agreement that will build on the unprecedented support of the entire Antioch family. In the interim, we ask that all parties remain patient as we work to secure the future of Antioch College.? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From aadole at roadrunner.com Sun Dec 9 11:47:29 2007 From: aadole at roadrunner.com (Art Dole) Date: Sun Dec 9 08:49:54 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: the solution to enrollment problems? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12/6/07 6:34 AM, "Steven Duffy" wrote: > Don't have time to tawk right now but thought folks might find this > interesting...Duffy > Happy start of Holiday madness will get back to all when the snow and dust > clear. > ----- Original Message ----- > > Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:36:50 PM > Pulse > From: Christine Smith > Subject: the solution to enrollment problems? > To: Pulse > > Today's NYT had a story about a college on the brink of closure, that is > having increased enrollment as a result of a film about the school. Know > any Hollywood filmmakers? > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/education/05wiley.html?em&ex=1197003600&en=c > f8b1cca44cf3011&ei=5087%0A > > > > Christine and Duffy--Great idea. Check with Richie Kaplan and Yazz Allen. During the Morgan era two things among others sparked enrollment--an article in the Readers Digest and Antioch Notes. Antioch Notes featured short articles by Morgan and others about innovations in higher education and was free on request. A modern version of Antioch Notes could use YouTube or the like. Matt, what would you suggest? Art Dole, '46 From davidrogerallen at hotmail.com Sun Dec 9 10:04:41 2007 From: davidrogerallen at hotmail.com (YAZZ Allen) Date: Sun Dec 9 10:04:44 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] SAVE ANTIOCH movie possibilities and problems! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dec. 9, 07 Hi from Yazz (David) Allen'66 (YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com)! A SAVE ANTIOCH movie which tells Antioch's stories an inpires on-lookers to support Antioch and join the fight to keep it open is a good idea. I have some background in the area of movie making and use (been a movie actor since I was an 18 year old Antioch student on a Chicago 1963 co-op and played the lead role in THE EASTER PARADE by Antioch filmmaker Mike Mideke '66...played "Jesus in Chicago" which was screened in Kelly Hall for all on campus during Spring Quarter 1963). Became a paid movie actor after Antioch, and am presently a Screen Actors Guild regional movie actor in the Mid-Atlantic USA States). Yes, the movie idea could work. No, it won't work if the movie isn't done well and/or if it isn't seen by adequates numbers of people. I good movie nobody seems will NOT do Antioch any good...people don't understand or appreciate the importance of distribution...they make movies, but don't know how to get the movies shown. The UTube idea is good, but it's obvious and so much is on UTube, Antioch material would have to be very well publicized for people to see it. Non-UTube options (film festivals, special screenings in big cities, etc.) should/ must be considered. All that said, the movie itself would have to be good. It really would have to tell Antioch's story, and SELL Antioch! Make people cheer for the school, and leave 'em smiling and enthusiastic! This might sound obvious, but most movies and sales media doesn't accomplish this, doesn't do the job needed. Also, keep in mind that sales media prepared by Antioch College itself over the past 30 years has been awful. It has NOT told Antioch's story, has NOT sold the school, has NOT made friends and got people enthusastic about Antioch. Visual images part of the college catalogue in recent decades have been grim. Antioch has NOT been portrayed as a winner school, and Antioch students and graduates have NOT been portrayed as winner people. The formula has been to point to half a dozen celebrity grads and imply their importance rubs off on future Antiochians! Wrong! The whole "pity party, handwringing" mentality of "poor old Antioch, friend of losers in the poor old world" has NOT sold tickets, and the same mentality put in a promo SAVE ANTIOCH movie won't either. What is needed (but not necessarily likely) is a GOOD movie which leaves those who see it cheering! There are ways to do this, but good taste is needed, and the extremely bad taste in Antioch print sales media tolerated and unobjected to by Antioch leaders in recent decades must be renounced! Best, Yazz (David) Allen '66 (YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com) Member- Screen Actors Guild --------------------- Contact "Yazz" (David) Allen directly via email at YazzAllen@Yahoo.Com, mail to 644 Shrewsbury Commons Ave., #239, Shrewsbury PA USA 17361...Phone (717) 235 - 1982! See my pro movie actor photos and recent credits/resume by visiting WWW.IMDb.Com (world's largest movie info database, owned by Amazon.Com) IMDb RESUME. Also WWW.SAG.Org "IActor" file. Also WWW.CastingNetworks.Com and/or WWW.NYCasting.Com. > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 08:47:29 -0800> Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: the solution to enrollment problems?> From: aadole@roadrunner.com> To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> > On 12/6/07 6:34 AM, "Steven Duffy" wrote:> > > Don't have time to tawk right now but thought folks might find this> > interesting...Duffy> > Happy start of Holiday madness will get back to all when the snow and dust> > clear.> > ----- Original Message -----> > > > Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:36:50 PM> > Pulse> > From: Christine Smith> > Subject: the solution to enrollment problems?> > To: Pulse> > > > Today's NYT had a story about a college on the brink of closure, that is> > having increased enrollment as a result of a film about the school. Know> > any Hollywood filmmakers?> > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/education/05wiley.html?em&ex=1197003600&en=c> > f8b1cca44cf3011&ei=5087%0A> > > > > > > > > Christine and Duffy--Great idea. Check with Richie Kaplan and Yazz Allen.> > During the Morgan era two things among others sparked enrollment--an article> in the Readers Digest and Antioch Notes. Antioch Notes featured short> articles by Morgan and others about innovations in higher education and was> free on request.> > A modern version of Antioch Notes could use YouTube or the like. Matt, what> would you suggest?> > > Art Dole, '46 > > _______________________________________________> Alumni-chat mailing list> Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu> http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat> Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i?m Initiative now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM From edhush at yahoo.com Sun Dec 9 18:54:08 2007 From: edhush at yahoo.com (Ed Hush) Date: Sun Dec 9 18:54:12 2007 Subject: [antioch-nyc] [Alumni-chat] Re: the latest non-news and further admissions sabotage In-Reply-To: <047A6C40-0BFF-4583-999D-9B586DF634DE@baya.net> Message-ID: <790278.22634.qm@web54301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Thank you so much Matt! Now I know why everyone wants her out. This is entirely inappropriate- I especially am aghast of her blatant violation of the focus of protocols having to do specifically with her professional position! The red denotes what I can best tell is a breaking of our rules from some of what Matt has put in front of us, the lighter red is questionable but that it appears to also be breaking of said rules. Someone, everyone(!) who has rights under the community Constitution and Lege Code should bring her to CSB citing the below document. Know that I will do everything in my power to support you. Tell me what you need from me to do this! Enough is enough- I've heard far too much of what ill effects this womyn has on our community, her employment by the institution is nothing short of a violation of what the Alumni charged the AB to set in motion and has. Her actions are an attack on the schools ability to sustain itself- and have been suspect in the eyes of pretty much everyone I speak to- the time has come that the Alumni Board call upon the University Board of Trustees and University Leadership Council to honor their agreement in good faith, or further risk the community's good faith as a whole. The time has come- Linda Syrk must go. More from Matt's forward: The items below constitute examples of acceptable and unacceptable use: Acceptable Use ? Use consistent with the mission of Antioch College and its units. ? Use for purposes of, or in support of, education and pertinent academic research. ? Use related to administrative and other support activities considered consistent with the mission of Antioch College and its units. ? Personal communications as long as these do not interfere with the mission of the institution, infringe on the time of staff or students, or overload system or network resources. Unacceptable Use ? Use of Antioch College computers or networks that violates federal, state, or local laws or statutes. ? Providing, assisting in, or gaining unauthorized or inappropriate access to Antioch College?s computing resources. 2 ? Use of Antioch College computers or networks for unauthorized or inappropriate access to systems, software, or data at other sites. ? Installing on the network unauthorized network devises and network services such as wireless access points, Internet address resolution servers, file or communications servers, hubs, routers, and switches. ? Use of Antioch College?s systems or networks to copy, store, display, or distribute copyrighted material in any medium, or to prepare derivative works of such material, without the express permission of the copyright owner, except as otherwise allowed under copyright law. ? Installation of software on Antioch-owned computers that is not either in the public domain or for which legal licensing has not been acquired by the individual user or the institution via ITS or another department. ? Activities that interfere with the ability of others to use Antioch College?s computing resources or other network-connected services effectively. ? Activities that result in unauthorized access to or the loss of another?s work. ? Connecting one?s personal computer to Antioch College?s network without active and current anti-virus protection. ? Distribution of obscene, abusive, or threatening messages via electronic media such as e-mail or instant messaging. ? Distribution of chain letters or broadcasting to lists of individuals in a manner that might cause congestion of the network. ? Use of Antioch College computers or networks for commercial use or profitmaking enterprises except as specifically agreed to with the institution. ? Use inconsistent with the acceptable-use policies of the Ohio Private Academic Libraries (OPAL) consortium, Ohio Library Information Network (OhioLINK), the Library Division of the Southwestern Ohio Council for Higher Education (SOCHE) or the Ohio Academic Research Network OARnet. One Dream, Ed Trippel '92, CG '93 Matthew Baya wrote: In response to the e-mails about Linda Sirk's using someone elses computer without their permission as detailed at http://recordonline.org/2007/12/08/dude-where%e2%80%99s-my-application/ I respond with: http://www.antioch-college.edu/Campus/academic/AC_Computing_Policy.pdf Some highlights: " It is never permitted to use another person?s computer authorization for any purpose or to provide your own authorization to another. It is never permitted to access someone else?s work without explicit permission. It is not permitted to engage in any activity that would harass others or impede their work. " So Linda Sirk just violated the Antioch College Computing Policy which is an ADCIL approved policy. Not to mention the Honor Code. What does it take to get someone fired or at least put on probation these days? or are admins untouchable these days and those pesky policies only apply to students? Can someone get this info to someone on ADCIL to raise it as an agenda item? -Matt On Dec 8, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Tim Noble wrote: > Breaking news from the Record on another case of electronic identity > theft, related to this application link disappearance: > http://recordonline.org/2007/12/08/dude-where%e2%80%99s-my- > application/ > > > > > On Dec 8, 2007 1:28 AM, Tim Noble wrote: >> Careful observers will note that the link to the "common application" >> (which is necessary to apply to Antioch as a transfer student) was >> removed this afternoon from the admissions portion of the college >> website. Sources suggest that Lynda Sirk is directly responsible. >> Why has the means of applying has been deliberately removed from the >> page that announces we're accepting applications? Does anyone really >> believe that the University wants the college to succeed after the >> long list of insults we've had to endure during this period of >> "collaboration"? If this year ends without resignations by folks >> responsible for the grand disaster visited on Antioch, i won't be >> surprised. But, i will be disappointed. >> >> Tim Noble '02 >> >> Just posted on the official college site: >> http://www.antioch-college.edu/news/releases/index.php?id=203 >> >> Antioch News >> Release Date: December 7, 2007 >> Antioch University Board of Trustees Continues Collaboration >> Statement issued to faculty, staff and students Friday evening >> >> YELLOW SPRINGS, OHIO ? The University Board of Trustees met on Dec. >> 6th to continue its discussions about plans currently being developed >> in concert with alumni and donors to ensure Antioch College's >> financial stability and academic excellence. The Board is making >> significant progress in these deliberations, and will issue a further >> statement as soon as possible to communicate its progress more fully >> to the entire community. >> >> "The current state of our discussions is extremely encouraging," said >> Art Zucker, chairman of the University Board of Trustees. "I am >> optimistic that our diligent work will result in an agreement that >> will build on the unprecedented support of the entire Antioch family. >> In the interim, we ask that all parties remain patient as we work to >> secure the future of Antioch College." >> >> >> -- >> "In fact, it's an immense task to try to propose a few possibilities, >> in the plural?a few possibilities other than what we are told is >> possible. It is a matter of showing how the space of the possible is >> larger than the one assigned?that something else is possible,but not >> that everything is possible." ? Alain Badiou >> > > > > -- > "In fact, it's an immense task to try to propose a few possibilities, > in the plural?a few possibilities other than what we are told is > possible. It is a matter of showing how the space of the possible is > larger than the one assigned?that something else is possible,but not > that everything is possible." ? Alain Badiou > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _______________________________________________ NYC mailing list NYC@lists.antiochians.org http://lists.antiochians.org/mailman/listinfo/nyc_lists.antiochians.org ONE DREAM ONE MIND ONE HEART ONE PEOPLE POWER IS THE PEOPLE POWER IS THE IMAGINATION --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From jonny.no at gmail.com Sun Dec 9 19:52:47 2007 From: jonny.no at gmail.com (Jonny) Date: Sun Dec 9 19:52:53 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: the solution to enrollment problems? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1b1896cc0712091652o2802468cv233b94a1eea172b7@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 9, 2007 11:47 AM, Art Dole wrote: > On 12/6/07 6:34 AM, "Steven Duffy" wrote: > > > Don't have time to tawk right now but thought folks might find this > > interesting...Duffy > > Happy start of Holiday madness will get back to all when the snow and > dust > > clear. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:36:50 PM > > Pulse > > From: Christine Smith > > Subject: the solution to enrollment problems? > > To: Pulse > > > > Today's NYT had a story about a college on the brink of closure, that is > > having increased enrollment as a result of a film about the school. > Know > > any Hollywood filmmakers? > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/education/05wiley.html?em&ex=1197003600&en=c > > f8b1cca44cf3011&ei=5087%0A > > > > > > > > Christine and Duffy--Great idea. Check with Richie Kaplan and Yazz Allen. > > During the Morgan era two things among others sparked enrollment--an > article > in the Readers Digest and Antioch Notes. Antioch Notes featured short > articles by Morgan and others about innovations in higher education and > was > free on request. > > A modern version of Antioch Notes could use YouTube or the like. Matt, > what > would you suggest? > > Hi, I registered the domains Antiochdocumentary.org and Antiochmedia.org a while back and I'm currently working to develop online tools for distributed media production, with the goal of producing an antioch documentary. Not just me, actually - or even mostly. It's distributed, nobody is really the 'producer' in the traditional sense. A media pooling site is being set up here: http://media.antiochflashpoint.org but it is not quite done yet. Most things work, though. Enough to coordinate and buy more development vowels. I made a much more detailed post this morning to communications committee so i won't go into detail here.. please email me if you would like more information. Although the public facing aspect of this project is not as defined, there are many students and others on campus that have been faithfully shooting footage for months, including myself. Personally, I think producing media is critical, and will prove a defining factor in our success, so I have been acting accordingly in everything I've been doing in collaboration with others. It should be noted that this is a distributed, grassroots, independent production that uses mostly online tools and leverages web based social networks (like Youtube, facebook, etc...) and as such may not appeal to some folks.. Point is, there is plenty of room for more polished productions to join in the chorus as well - I'm glad to hear folks discussing this. Keep checking those urls up there every few weeks to monitor progress. I'll also mail updates. To contribute or participate, start by joining the aimac mailing list (follow this link-->) http://antiochflashpoint.org/mailman/admindb/aimac_antiochflashpoint.org jonny > > Art Dole, '46 > > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! > -- Jonny Estes NEW TEL#: 6147980914 (till 10pm) AIM: sixy777 !=marketing Open source e-marketing | Data & web solutions e: jonny.no@gmail.com From duffy at antioch-college.edu Tue Dec 11 09:53:46 2007 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Tue Dec 11 09:53:26 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] catchya later Message-ID: At the Big Olive (Kettering Library) we are cleaning up the academic aftermath. Good lord !!! these kids (and some McGregor folks too) read...or order everything avaiolable in cyberspace......OPAL and OHIOLINK rock. Before folks have visions of sugarplums dancing in their heads they are returning massive quantities of both Olive 's and Interlibrary loan materials. Just a reminder to folks..we have had an extraordinary "Record" this term...the Record Editors have even added a last minute electronic only version of the Record. As always...as fun reading as any web stuff in the continental USA. recordonline.org ho-ho-ho! I do have a major story to tell you and it is about Coretta Scott King's legacy and the City of Dayton. Hope to do so soon. But am waiting for the text used at the meeting... Please take care of yourselves and hopefully us here as well. Dreaming of a green Christmas and autonomy. I still want Art Zucker (and them) all to myself. ho-ho-ho. Duffy I hope folks will keep us on their Christmas list..if not in this tax year..maybe the next. For those who itemize the Revival Fund now has that status that is simply wonderful on yer 1040 if you are blessed enuf to be ab le to itemize. From pas0705 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 11 10:25:18 2007 From: pas0705 at yahoo.com (Laura Fathauer) Date: Tue Dec 11 10:25:21 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] "The Realities of Rescuing Colleges in Distress" Message-ID: <487809.26939.qm@web63904.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I was asked to forward this article to the alumni-chat list. In October, during the days leading up to the BoT meeting, published on the Chronicle's website was an article regarding rescuing colleges in distress, and how turnarounds happened in such colleges. The author of this article wrote a book on this topic, and excepted some of the findings for the article posted on the Chronicle's website, which I copy below. You'll see below the author mentions three phases in a turnaroud, the first being restoring financial health. Yes, our buildings need to be fixed. Yes, our technology needs to be improved. But we cannot stop our education of students, our primary business, to wait on things that can happen later. We need to get our finances in order first. We don't have a CFO engaged in this. We don't have a College or a University leader engaged in this. And, we're not entering in new 1st year students. I hope that the Donors are more successful in getting an agreement such that the College can truly begin to get out of this hole, WHILE retaining the students, faculty, and staff that are vitally necessary to do the work that is needed to get to a viable and sustainable College. -laura http://chronicle.com/weekly/v54/i07/07b01101.htm The Realities of Rescuing Colleges in Distress By TERRENCE MACTAGGART Certain higher-education institutions are at risk in 2007 and beyond, according to Moody's Investors Service, which gauges colleges' financial health. They include small private colleges with limited geographic draw, colleges with ambitious spending plans to improve their national reputations, and regional public universities that face heavy competition from community colleges. Are those institutions condemned by circumstances to hard times? Or can creative leadership put them on the path to a future characterized by stable finances, stronger reputations, and higher quality? Several colleagues and I set out to answer those questions by studying the turnaround trajectories of some 40 colleges, three-quarters of which are private. We focused first on colleges on the brink of disaster, threatened by tribulations such as bankruptcy, loss of federal approval for financial aid, and sanctions from their accrediting agencies. We also looked at a second group of institutions that, while better off and unlikely to miss a payroll or lose accreditation, had gradually slipped in their academic strength, brand recognition, and ability to attract able students. Some of what we found surprised us. We had initially subscribed to three myths about turnarounds: only money matters, autocratic leadership is best, and faculty members don't play much of a role. The reality turned out to be more complex. Myth 1: Only money matters. To be sure, money is important. But restoring financial health is only the initial step in turning around a distressed institution. Such transformations usually have three phases. The first is creating a business model that yields a balanced budget. The second focuses on marketing programs and building or rebuilding the college's reputation or brand. The culminating stage is what we call "academic revitalization." It requires an institutionwide effort to redefine the educational mission, to imagine new ways of teaching and learning, and to communicate that renewal of academic energy both on and off the campus. When an institution is suffering deep financial distress, fixing the budget problems must come first. Seriously indebted, faced with declining enrollment and only a tiny endowment, Green Mountain College, in Vermont, was struggling to make its payroll five years ago, when John F. Brennan became president. He brought skills honed not only in academe but also in bank start-ups and corporate turnarounds. Within a year, he and his team had put Green Mountain in the black, reduced $1.7-million in debt to $300,000, and resolved a $6-million lawsuit for a small fraction of that amount. The University of Denver faced similar challenges when Daniel L. Ritchie became chancellor, in 1989. The deficit totaled $8-million, the current year's budget envisioned an additional $1.4-million operating loss, and insiders reportedly were discussing options for closing the institution. Within two years, Ritchie and his team had balanced the budget, reduced the cost of operations by $2-million, and started to reposition Denver as an attractive national research university. The lessons from the turnarounds at Green Mountain and Denver are twofold. Colleges facing serious financial problems must deal with them as the top priority. But only relieving the immediate fiscal distress will not save the institution. Both Brennan and Ritchie realized that merely achieving a balanced budget would not redeem their institutions. Green Mountain has since made its campus a more attractive learning environment, in order to improve student retention. It has also added graduate programs, including a master's degree in environmental studies and a "sustainable" M.B.A. that extends the college's brand as an environmentally conscious institution. Denver promotes itself to students as a place that takes people seriously by requiring as many as three personal interviews in the admissions process. It has also defined itself as a major research university, ranked among the top 100 "national universities" in U.S. News & World Report. While the two institutions began their transformations with a tough-minded attention to the bottom line, both have shifted their emphasis to revitalizing and marketing the educational experience. Myth 2: It takes a dictator. Albert J. Dunlap, onetime head of the Scott Paper Company and a legendary takeover artist, earned the moniker "Chainsaw Al" for his slash-and-burn tactics in turning around sluggish companies. He immediately fired 11,000 employees before selling Scott off. The myth lingers that, especially in the early stages, turnarounds in higher education demand a brand of ruthlessness akin to Chainsaw Al's. But we found that while the most effective turnaround leaders were decisive, to be sure, they were also collaborative. Regis College, in suburban Boston, until recently a women's college, illustrates that hard choices and a sense of community can coexist. Mary Jane England returned to her alma mater as president in 2001 to find a college with falling enrollment, deteriorating buildings, and an annual operating deficit of more than $6-million. She had to fix the finances and eventually admit men to the undergraduate program. She persuaded the trustees to declare financial exigency. The personnel count was drastically cut; payroll was trimmed by a third; 26 departments were reduced to six "centers"; and majors in chemistry, mathematics, economics, and French fell by the wayside. The president and trustees ultimately made the tough decisions, but campuswide discussion groups also tackled the hard choices. Opening the undergraduate program to men promises to bolster enrollment, as applications and deposits rose substantially for this fall. The changes have been accomplished ? following much dialogue with alumni, faculty members, and students ? with minimal pushback. Regis is turning itself around through a balanced approach of cutting costs, increasing enrollment, and sustaining a culture that prizes dialogue in reaching difficult decisions. The collaborative style works at complex research and professional schools as well. When Kenneth A. Shaw came to Syracuse University, he found an institution that filled its first-year classes, offered successful sports teams, and enjoyed seemingly healthy finances. Thanks to a report commissioned by his predecessor, however, he quickly learned that to create that full freshman class and make the budget, Syracuse was dipping deeper and deeper into its applicant pool and admitting less-able students. Determined to avert a slide into academic mediocrity, Shaw began to communicate within Syracuse to highlight the university's dilemma. He and his team visited nearly every department to present the budget and options for reducing enrollment and raising quality. In the end, Syracuse got smaller and better. By design, enrollment fell by 2,000. The faculty complement dropped by 165 through attrition and a generous retirement plan, and 400 staff members departed. The faculty senate endorsed the painful but essential changes. Transparency in presenting the dilemma, as well as the full engagement of the faculty in both the problem and its cure, sustained a sense of community during the downsizing. In the process, Syracuse redefined itself as a premier student-centered research university. Myth 3: Faculty members don't play a key role. In fact, professors often sound the alarm that a college is failing, and there are numerous examples of faculty leadership in turnarounds. With their jobs on the line, faculty members at beleaguered institutions are often more sensitive to inadequate presidents and flawed strategies than trustees are. In one instance, faculty members called a governing board's attention to the sheer lunacy of attempting to convert a modest college of business into a research university. Energized by that warning, the trustees eventually hired a new president, who understood the institution's potential. In another example of board inattention to bad decisions, a president financed a new branch campus at a ski resort. The college incurred substantial debt payments and attracted few new students. Again, it took a faculty delegation to focus the trustees' attention on the college's downward slope, and the need for new leadership. Faculty members are, of course, central to designing and offering new academic programs during the marketing phase of turnarounds. The head of the religious-studies department at a private college in the Midwest led the development and promotion of several new master's-degree programs for adult learners. The revenue from those programs literally saved the college. Faculty members can also be pivotal in urging a college to move to the next level in its turnaround trajectory. They usually react badly to the commercial connotations in the word "branding," but they will dedicate themselves to strengthening its near synonym: reputation. When a search began for a new leader at a well-known public institution in the Northeast, faculty members persuaded the trustees to seek someone who could lead the institution well into the third stage of academic renewal. Few colleges are so distressed that they cannot be turned toward a brighter future. To transform underperforming institutions usually requires new leaders who combine tough-mindedness with collaboration, and who recognize that fixing the balance sheet is only a first step. Successful turnarounds demand that virtually all key groups on a campus, particularly the faculty, contribute to making tough choices, help reposition the institution in the academic marketplace, and find the inspiration to revitalize the teaching and learning experience. Terrence MacTaggart is a former chancellor of the University of Maine system and editor of Academic Turnarounds: Restoring Vitality to Challenged American Colleges and Universities (ACE/Praeger, 2007). ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From aadole at roadrunner.com Tue Dec 11 14:38:17 2007 From: aadole at roadrunner.com (Art Dole) Date: Tue Dec 11 11:40:46 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] "The Realities of Rescuing Colleges in Distress" In-Reply-To: <487809.26939.qm@web63904.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 12/11/07 7:25 AM, "Laura Fathauer" wrote: > I was asked to forward this article to the alumni-chat list. > > In October, during the days leading up to the BoT meeting, published on the > Chronicle's website was an article regarding rescuing colleges in distress, > and how turnarounds happened in such colleges. The author of this article > wrote a book on this topic, and excepted some of the findings for the article > posted on the Chronicle's website, which I copy below. > > You'll see below the author mentions three phases in a turnaroud, the first > being restoring financial health. Yes, our buildings need to be fixed. Yes, > our technology needs to be improved. But we cannot stop our education of > students, our primary business, to wait on things that can happen later. We > need to get our finances in order first. We don't have a CFO engaged in this. > We don't have a College or a University leader engaged in this. And, we're not > entering in new 1st year students. > > I hope that the Donors are more successful in getting an agreement such that > the College can truly begin to get out of this hole, WHILE retaining the > students, faculty, and staff that are vitally necessary to do the work that is > needed to get to a viable and sustainable College. > > -laura > > http://chronicle.com/weekly/v54/i07/07b01101.htm > The Realities of Rescuing Colleges in Distress > By TERRENCE MACTAGGART > >Laura--Encouraging article. Terrence MacTaggart was well regarded when he was Chancellor of the U. Maine system. So far as Antioch College is concerned, the first step is independence, and the second is to find a leader with vision and energy. Maybe Dr. MacTaggart would like a challenge? Art Dole, '46 From eayres at comcast.net Tue Dec 11 11:59:48 2007 From: eayres at comcast.net (E. Daniel Ayres) Date: Tue Dec 11 12:00:56 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Another call for better focus... Message-ID: <003101c83c17$3cecb7c0$b6c62740$@net> Recent posting to this list seems all about specific technical issues and conflicts over when/how agreements between somewhat nebulous groups are being implemented. There may well be "reasons" for pulling specific web sites down and/or putting up new ones. There comes a time, however, when in the interests of efficiency, subscribers to a list should be able to identify and expect a specific purpose to be served. If this list is to serve all alumnae, should repeated sniping at specific individuals and their actions be the daily faire? It would seem to me that SaveAntioch, or another list server might be a more appropriate place for discussions of as yet unresolved issues between university employees and the active technical volunteer staff of the effort to Save Antioch College. This list may well also represent Alumnae who "don't care" if residential programs are suspended and only restored when the curriculum, the accreditation, and the faculty and finance issues have been fully reviewed, vetted, and represent a consensus of the parties involved. I know that this is a "new world" in the sense that computer saavy and fast typing individuals have always dominated, but. E. Daniel Ayres 734-395-9141 (cell) http://home.comcast.net/~eayres From matt at baya.net Tue Dec 11 13:01:48 2007 From: matt at baya.net (Matthew Baya) Date: Tue Dec 11 13:01:52 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] fwd: Here is the News! Finally! Message-ID: <32B1B854-6F2D-49B5-90B5-1D67DB70241C@baya.net> Begin forwarded message: > From: Michael Brower > Date: December 11, 2007 12:22:15 PM EST > To: Chapters > Subject: [Chapters] Big News! PRESS RELEASE The Antioch University Board of Trustees announced today that it has approved a resolution instructing Chancellor Toni Murdock to begin exploring the possibility of transferring the ownership of Antioch College to a separate, free-standing liberal arts institution with its own board of trustees. Under the resolution, the Chancellor will immediately convene ?a work group of administrators and others with the expertise and experience necessary to examine the feasibility of such a transfer of the College and to identify the major issues affecting the University's interest in such a transaction.? If feasible, it would be transferred to the Antioch College Continuation Corporation, an independent, Ohio non- profit corporation that has been formed by a group of College alumni, major donors, former trustees and emeritus faculty. After exploring the feasibility of such a transfer and negotiating with authorized representatives of the new corporation, the Chancellor will present a draft letter of intent laying out the proposed terms of any such transfer to the University trustees for consideration ?as soon as possible but not later than its regularly scheduled meeting set for February 21-23, 2008.? If an agreement is reached that satisfies both parties, the transfer would take effect on July 1, 2008. ?This action taken by the University trustees replaces the Agreements in Principle recently negotiated with the Antioch College Alumni Board of Directors,? said Art Zucker, Chair of the University Board of Trustees. ?The goal, if feasible, is to reach an agreement that provides the College with a fully independent board exclusively devoted to continuing its financial stability, sustainability and academic excellence.? Nancy Crow, who helped negotiate the earlier agreement with the trustees as president of the Antioch College Alumni Association, hailed the new development. ?We are thrilled to be able to join forces with the leaders of the Antioch College Continuation Corporation,? Crow said. ?Their efforts represent what the Alumni Association has been working so diligently to achieve over the past six months. We will coordinate our efforts under the guidance of the new corporation to build on our detailed plan for continuing and enhancing College operations.? Both parties to the discussion acknowledged that there are a host of issues to be sorted out before any transfer can be considered or approved. ?But this is an exciting and potentially historic moment for the entire University,? said Frances Degen Horowitz, co-chair of the Antioch College Continuation Corporation and president emerita of the City University of New York Graduate Center, who graduated from Antioch College in 1954. ?Working closely with the entire Antioch College community, we are confident that we can raise the necessary resources to stabilize the College and secure its standing as one of the nation?s foremost liberal-arts institutions.? Horowitz noted that directors of the new corporation have already pledged to contribute more than $7 million by the end of December, 2007, to be held in trust until a transfer is approved. ?As we proceed with our negotiations,? she added, ?we will need immediate and substantial financial support from alumni and all friends of Antioch College. Working together, we have an unprecedented opportunity to restore the College to its roots and establish a substantial endowment for the College to ensure its long-term sustainability.? In addition to Horowitz, the Antioch College Continuation Corporation is co-chaired by Eric Bates, deputy managing editor of Rolling Stone magazine, who graduated from Antioch College in 1983. Both Bates and Horowitz are former presidents of the Antioch College Alumni Association and former members of the Antioch University Board of Trustees. Joining them as directors of the Antioch College Continuation Corporation are seven other graduates of Antioch College: ? Laura Markham (secretary), PhD, clinical psychologist and editor of Your Parenting Solutions; former member of the University Board of Trustees; Antioch ?80 ? David Goodman (treasurer), businessman and principal of North Arrows LLC and e-Solar Properties LLC; Antioch ?69 ? Catherine Jordan, president of Achieve Minneapolis and chair of the accreditation task force of the Antioch College Alumni Board of Directors; Antioch ?72 ? Steve Schwerner, emeritus Antioch College professor and former Dean of Students; current member of the Antioch College Alumni Board of Directors, Antioch ?60 ? Lee Morgan, president of The Antioch Company, Antioch ?66 ? Barbara Winslow, associate professor of adolescence social studies and women?s studies at Brooklyn College; former member of the Antioch University Board of Trustees; current member of the Antioch College Alumni Board of Directors; Antioch ?68 ? Terry O. Herndon, entrepreneur and businessman; Antioch ?57 The prior Agreements in Principle reached with the Alumni Association in November called for the lifting of the suspension of operations of the College provided that certain financial benchmarks were met. Under the new approach, however, the University will no longer operate the College beyond June 30, 2008. Any College operations beyond that date would be the sole responsibility of the new corporation. In the event that an agreement is not reached between the parties, the Board has further directed the Chancellor to study and report back to the Board on the feasibility of the University?s own plans to reopen the College after the June 30 suspension of operations. ?The Chancellor is currently studying whether a transfer of operations can be accomplished in a way that protects the interests of the University while also ensuring the viability of the College,? said Zucker. ?No final decision has been made by the Board, but we are taking a serious look at the issue and are working closely with directors of the new corporation to afford this endeavor every chance of success.? Directors of the Antioch College Continuation Corporation expressed enthusiasm for the current state of negotiations. ?I joined this endeavor because I believe it represents a significant step forward for Antioch College,? said Steve Schwerner, who worked at Antioch from 1976 to 2003. ?If we can reach agreement on a transfer, the College will finally have the autonomy and resources it needs to be able to move forward.? For more information, contact: Mary Lou LaPierre, Vice Chancellor for University Advancement, 206-276-1166 Eric Bates, Co-chair, Antioch College Continuation Corporation: (212) 484-1675 From duffy at antioch-college.edu Tue Dec 11 13:16:38 2007 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Tue Dec 11 13:16:18 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] fwd: Here is the News! Finally! In-Reply-To: <32B1B854-6F2D-49B5-90B5-1D67DB70241C@baya.net> References: <32B1B854-6F2D-49B5-90B5-1D67DB70241C@baya.net> Message-ID: If you had read alumni-chat earlier today I had asked for a green Christmas and an autonomous college. Since I seem to be on a roll, well....... I know exactly what to ask for next... that contractual obligations for tenure and the unionized employees be honored as best as fiscally possible...not thrown into the terlit...or obfuscated by lawyers 41 year Antiochian ex Alumni Board member 31 year employee believer and reminder Praise the Lord and the Board..and all the folks involved Duffy From alicson at gmail.com Tue Dec 11 14:06:03 2007 From: alicson at gmail.com (Alicson) Date: Tue Dec 11 14:06:08 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] fwd: Here is the News! Finally! In-Reply-To: References: <32B1B854-6F2D-49B5-90B5-1D67DB70241C@baya.net> Message-ID: <1c08629e0712111106r703b283ao87f5b309174a14f1@mail.gmail.com> WOW!!! On Dec 11, 2007 1:16 PM, Steven Duffy wrote: > If you had read alumni-chat earlier today I had asked for a green > Christmas and an autonomous college. Since I seem to be on a roll, > well....... > > I know exactly what to ask for next... > that contractual obligations for tenure and the unionized employees be > honored as best as fiscally possible...not thrown into the terlit...or > obfuscated by lawyers > > > 41 year Antiochian > ex Alumni Board member > 31 year employee > believer and reminder > > > Praise the Lord and the Board..and all the folks involved > > Duffy > > _______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! > From judemers at gmail.com Tue Dec 11 14:21:59 2007 From: judemers at gmail.com (Jude Logan Demers) Date: Tue Dec 11 14:22:03 2007 Subject: [SaveAntioch] [Alumni-chat] fwd: Here is the News! Finally! In-Reply-To: <1c08629e0712111106r703b283ao87f5b309174a14f1@mail.gmail.com> References: <32B1B854-6F2D-49B5-90B5-1D67DB70241C@baya.net> <1c08629e0712111106r703b283ao87f5b309174a14f1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20c4b6960712111121p43a6d535qc1b100b541885108@mail.gmail.com> Autonomy is granted in the future of prayers for the holidays Also in the future can we please have some scholarships and grants specifically for inner city students living below the poverty line also is it possible to have minority student, faculty, and staff representation that is at least twice what the us population is better yet reflects accurately the cultural make up of the world that we live in i.e. 20 percent Latino 20 percent African American 20 percent Asian and/or asian american 20 percent first nation and/or aboriginal and 20 percent European and/or European American while we're dreaming and collaborating i thought I'd throw my two cents in I posted some new music and performed at the last community meeting of the semester www.myspace.com/judelogandemers i am engaged to Misty now www.putfile.com/mistynjude call us 937-301-9064 go team and congradulations namaste shanthi amen aushay On 12/11/07, Alicson wrote: > > WOW!!! > > On Dec 11, 2007 1:16 PM, Steven Duffy wrote: > > > If you had read alumni-chat earlier today I had asked for a green > > Christmas and an autonomous college. Since I seem to be on a roll, > > well....... > > > > I know exactly what to ask for next... > > that contractual obligations for tenure and the unionized employees > be > > honored as best as fiscally possible...not thrown into the terlit...or > > obfuscated by lawyers > > > > > > 41 year Antiochian > > ex Alumni Board member > > 31 year employee > > believer and reminder > > > > > > Praise the Lord and the Board..and all the folks involved > > > > Duffy > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Alumni-chat mailing list > > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.antiochians.org/pipermail/saveantioch_lists.antiochians.org/attachments/20071211/17be0f8f/attachment.html > _______________________________________________ > SaveAntioch mailing list > SaveAntioch@lists.antiochians.org > > http://lists.antiochians.org/mailman/listinfo/saveantioch_lists.antiochians.org > -- love, peace, joy, light, knowledge, wisdom, and understanding om shanthi hallelujah amen om shanthi hallelujah amen om shanthi hallelujah amen From dramamama at nyc.rr.com Tue Dec 11 15:25:13 2007 From: dramamama at nyc.rr.com (Robin Rice Lichtig) Date: Tue Dec 11 15:25:13 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Here is the News! Finally! Message-ID: <00c801c83c33$f0aa4b30$d1fee190$@rr.com> Ohmygod what good news! The people in the helm whom I know, some of whom I've worked with -- Eric, Steve, Barbara, Lee, Terry -- all have my greatest respect. All are movers and no-nonsense shakers. For the first time in a long time I see a light at the end of the tunnel. So grateful for all the hard work that's been done and will be done. Happy Holidays indeed! - Robin ************************************** For a blog about my recent amazing experience teaching playwriting in Mongolia, as well as details on gigs and available scripts see Robin Rice Lichtig at www.dramamama.net ************************************** "The future is here but it's unevenly distributed." -- Robert Heinlein From marklp2 at comcast.net Tue Dec 11 16:09:02 2007 From: marklp2 at comcast.net (Mark Pomerantz) Date: Tue Dec 11 16:09:00 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] "The Realities of Rescuing Colleges in Distress" In-Reply-To: References: <487809.26939.qm@web63904.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00cf01c83c3a$0ec488f0$0301a8c0@home84c77b9b4f> Art, Those Chronicle articles are unreadable unless you have an account. If you want us to read it you have to forward the whole thing. -----Original Message----- From: alumni-chat-bounces@w3.antioch.edu [mailto:alumni-chat-bounces@w3.antioch.edu] On Behalf Of Art Dole Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:38 AM To: Antioch Alum Chat Subject: Re: [Alumni-chat] "The Realities of Rescuing Colleges in Distress" On 12/11/07 7:25 AM, "Laura Fathauer" wrote: > I was asked to forward this article to the alumni-chat list. > > In October, during the days leading up to the BoT meeting, published on the > Chronicle's website was an article regarding rescuing colleges in distress, > and how turnarounds happened in such colleges. The author of this article > wrote a book on this topic, and excepted some of the findings for the article > posted on the Chronicle's website, which I copy below. > > You'll see below the author mentions three phases in a turnaroud, the first > being restoring financial health. Yes, our buildings need to be fixed. Yes, > our technology needs to be improved. But we cannot stop our education of > students, our primary business, to wait on things that can happen later. We > need to get our finances in order first. We don't have a CFO engaged in this. > We don't have a College or a University leader engaged in this. And, we're not > entering in new 1st year students. > > I hope that the Donors are more successful in getting an agreement such that > the College can truly begin to get out of this hole, WHILE retaining the > students, faculty, and staff that are vitally necessary to do the work that is > needed to get to a viable and sustainable College. > > -laura > > http://chronicle.com/weekly/v54/i07/07b01101.htm > The Realities of Rescuing Colleges in Distress > By TERRENCE MACTAGGART > >Laura--Encouraging article. Terrence MacTaggart was well regarded when he was Chancellor of the U. Maine system. So far as Antioch College is concerned, the first step is independence, and the second is to find a leader with vision and energy. Maybe Dr. MacTaggart would like a challenge? Art Dole, '46 _______________________________________________ Alumni-chat mailing list Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.15/1173 - Release Date: 12/5/2007 9:29 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.15/1173 - Release Date: 12/5/2007 9:29 PM From pas0705 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 11 16:14:15 2007 From: pas0705 at yahoo.com (Laura Fathauer) Date: Tue Dec 11 16:14:18 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] "The Realities of Rescuing Colleges in Distress" Message-ID: <902619.48737.qm@web63902.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Mark- I forwarded the full text of the article in my original email. -l ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Sistersara at aol.com Wed Dec 12 01:57:52 2007 From: Sistersara at aol.com (Sistersara@aol.com) Date: Wed Dec 12 01:57:58 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Restore to mailing list. Message-ID: Please restore to mailing list. **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) From dlbahr at hotmail.com Wed Dec 12 08:31:52 2007 From: dlbahr at hotmail.com (dl bahr) Date: Wed Dec 12 08:31:56 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Antioch College Continuation Corporation Message-ID: This IS good news! A step FORWARD. Let me join the choir of chatters to raise a glass to all those working for the continuation of Antioch College: Nancy, Frances, Eric, Laura, David, Catherine, Steve, Lee, Barbara, Terry, Michael and all others unnamed, SALUT! Many have been working overtime, to say the least. Let 2008 be the beginning of a new chapter for Antioch College, Yellow Springs, OH. Here's to the success of Antioch College Continuation Corporation! Lesley A. Pownall Bahr '83 Minnesota _________________________________________________________________ i?m is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect From dlbahr at hotmail.com Wed Dec 12 09:09:00 2007 From: dlbahr at hotmail.com (dl bahr) Date: Wed Dec 12 09:09:03 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Louise Smith interview Message-ID: Dear Thelma: Well, I just watched an interview with Louise Smith (current theatre professor at Antioch) on Your Tube. Does she characterize herself as a success? I wouldn't take any character assessments/rumors she was circulating very seriously. How are you doing these days? Lesley _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec From dlbahr at hotmail.com Wed Dec 12 09:13:07 2007 From: dlbahr at hotmail.com (dl bahr) Date: Wed Dec 12 09:13:09 2007 Subject: FW: [Alumni-chat] Louise Smith interview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This email was sent to alumnichat in error. Sorry! > From: dlbahr@hotmail.com > To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:09:00 +0000 > Subject: [Alumni-chat] Louise Smith interview > > > Dear Thelma: > Well, I just watched an interview with Louise Smith (current theatre professor at Antioch) on Your Tube. Does she characterize herself as a success? I wouldn't take any character assessments/rumors she was circulating very seriously. > How are you doing these days? > Lesley > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! > http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec_______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec From gcalhoun at antioch-college.edu Wed Dec 12 09:51:11 2007 From: gcalhoun at antioch-college.edu (Gare Calhoun) Date: Wed Dec 12 09:50:53 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Re: Restore to mailing list. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi - Done. Looks like list software stopped sending because of bounces (perhaps full mailbox?) -Gare Sistersara@aol.com on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 1:57 AM wrote: >Please restore to mailing list. > > From gerrybello at hotmail.com Wed Dec 12 10:38:59 2007 From: gerrybello at hotmail.com (Gerry Bello) Date: Wed Dec 12 10:39:02 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Louise Smith interview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fixed that for ya > > > This blackhanded slander was uttered in public by mistake. > > > From: dlbahr@hotmail.com > > To: alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:09:00 +0000 > > Subject: [Alumni-chat] Louise Smith interview > > > > > > Dear Thelma: > > Well, I just watched an interview with Louise Smith (current theatre professor at Antioch) on Your Tube. Does she characterize herself as a success? I wouldn't take any character assessments/rumors she was circulating very seriously. > > How are you doing these days? > > Lesley > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! > > http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec_______________________________________________ > > Alumni-chat mailing list > > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! > http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec_______________________________________________ > Alumni-chat mailing list > Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu > http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat > Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007 From dramamama at nyc.rr.com Wed Dec 12 16:49:16 2007 From: dramamama at nyc.rr.com (Robin Rice Lichtig) Date: Wed Dec 12 16:49:20 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Louise Smith Interview Message-ID: <006a01c83d08$d81c86c0$88559440$@rr.com> I just watched the YouTube interview and heard nothing but honest, deep love of the College. I have known Louise since she first took over the theater. She is pure commitment and talent. I don't understand what was said in the interview that can be criticized. - Robin ************************************** For a blog about my recent amazing experience teaching playwriting in Mongolia, as well as details on gigs and available scripts see Robin Rice Lichtig at www.dramamama.net ************************************** "The future is here but it's unevenly distributed." -- Robert Heinlein From duffy at antioch-college.edu Thu Dec 13 09:09:38 2007 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Thu Dec 13 09:09:17 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: Non-Stop Antioch broadcast Message-ID: Just passing internal stuff on to the larger institutional river of Antiochians. duffy have a sane and happy holidaze ----- Original Message ----- Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:45:03 AM Pulse From: Kelly Ahrens Subject: Non-Stop Antioch broadcast To: Pulse I just thought I should let the Antioch community know that I've programmed a show about the events of Antioch Homecoming. You can watch it at quote-unquote.org by clicking on the TV icon to the right of the screen. That should lead you to the live media stream from the public access tv station in Albuquerque, NM. The show is called 'Non-Stop Antioch.' It's on at 10:00am ET, every Thursday until the end of the month. I'm going to try and get a timeslot to play it for the first three months of next year. Well, I hope you enjoy. Let me know if you have any questions or want a copy of a particular show. -kelly From duffy at antioch-college.edu Thu Dec 13 09:12:04 2007 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Thu Dec 13 09:11:41 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: Inside Higher Ed today: Antioch College Message-ID: Ho, Ho, Ho...uno mas Feliz navidad y prospero ano nuevo. duffy ----- Original Message ----- Wednesday, December 12, 2007 10:13:34 AM Pulse From: Linda Sattem Subject: Inside Higher Ed today: Antioch College To: Announcements Pulse short article about recent events: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2007/12/12/qt Linda Lee Sattem, Ph.D., PCC/S Director, Counseling and Wellness Center Antioch College 795 Livermore St. Yellow Springs, OH 45387-1697 (937) 769-1129 direct (937) 769-1130 center (937) 769-1125 fax E-mail is not a secure form of communication, and precautions need to be taken to protect all confidential information. From duffy at antioch-college.edu Thu Dec 13 12:57:07 2007 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Thu Dec 13 12:56:46 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] river of no return and Coretta Message-ID: Athena could you also forward to AOC list. First of all, Merry Christmas in advance to you all ....or wishing you fulfillment for any other holiday you may celebrate. This is a short note about part of our collective legacy...part of that river of people who flow through this tiny villlage. Hopefully we want the river to keep flowing along. I guess that I might live in two worlds. By day, here in utopia..where folks look at the world and themselves through co-op and other experiences. (and often become riled up and hypercritical over all sorts of things including power and privilege.) Then I go home to Dayton...on the west side......most folks don't have the luxury or awareness to talk about who has privilege....they are struggling...and there is terrible gun violence among a list of urban problems. I lost a family member to gun violence so I know it's real. Of my two planets..YS seems infinitely better...... In the fhe weeks preceding Thanksgiving the City of Dayton Commissioners were vetting and trying to vote on an ordinance that would give gays and lesbians protection from job and housing discrimination. This type of ordinance had been discussed and shot down eight years ago....at that time Dayton had a Republican mayor.... Anyhow this time Dayton has a Black woman mayor, Rhine McLin, (her father was C.J. McLin, a trailblazing state rep three decades ago.....her brother C.J. McLin III, went to Antioch briefly in the seventies. As the vote drew closer there was a large list of speakers....many Black baptist preachers from the SCLC, some hiding behind the P word, process...."we gotta discuss this thoroughly..." and others had said they found it objectionable as "special rights" or found it to be against their beliefs. :"the scriptures say.."... For cable access it was the best thing on Tv that evening. Tension in the air was more than just palpable. Right before the vote the Mayor used some text from an SCLC trailblazer to address the various, well, the homophobics at that meeting....here is her statement... " I have been challenged by friends on both sides to make the right decision, Clearly, the right decision for me personally would be to "abstain" or find some obscure rationale to vote "no". This would be politically expedient, but would it be the right thing to do as mayor of the city of Dayton? In searching my soul, I have been renewed by the words of Coretta Scott King. "I have worked too long and too hard agsinst segregated public accomodations to end up segregating my moral concern. Justice is indivisible. Like Martin, I don't believe you can stand for freedom for one group of people and deny it to others." If that is not clear enough, listen to what she said (i.e. Coretta) on March 31, 1998. "I still hear people say that I should not to be talking about the rights of lesbian and gay people and I should stick to the issue of racial justice. But I hasten to remind them that Martin Luther King,Jr, said "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." It has been nine years since the City Commission first discussed this issue. Justice delayed is justice denied. It is time to do the right thing. Coretta's experience at Antioch by the way..was imperfect.....just like many of ours has been. But her way of looking at the world and herself was partially molded by her Antioch adventure. I have read that "At Antioch " chapter over and over in her book My Life with Martin Luther King. So.....the world needs Coretta's wisdom and the Center named for her needs some nurturing for this world needs some guidance..even only 20 miles away. So for those who want to rebuild the College please put nurturing the CSK center on the short list. It will make Antioch, Dayton and beyond more highly evolved. gotta go to a committe meeting and thanks to Carole Braun, local staff for helping retrieve Mayor McLin's homage to Coretta. Ole crazy Duffy 77 at the Big olivbe (Kettering Library and on the way to a call with the ACCC) From wasb at albany.edu Thu Dec 13 13:42:06 2007 From: wasb at albany.edu (Stephen L. Wasby) Date: Thu Dec 13 13:42:55 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] a particular co-op site Message-ID: <001001c83db7$f5c07740$c6234bd0@wasbdzt3eud7ix> This is not about current travails, but about co-op jobs. If I remember correctly, quite a number of people co-oped at Letchworth Village in Thiells, N.Y., an institution for people with developmental disabilities (although that was not the term used then). There is an article in today's (Thursday, December 13) New York Times about efforts being made to put names on the markers in the cemetery there. (The institution has long been closed, with the residents dispersed to group homes ten years ago.) I thought that anyone on this list who had co-oped there (no, I did not) would be interested. Steve Wasby '59 From aadole at roadrunner.com Thu Dec 13 18:46:41 2007 From: aadole at roadrunner.com (Art Dole) Date: Thu Dec 13 15:49:12 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Another call for better focus... In-Reply-To: <003101c83c17$3cecb7c0$b6c62740$@net> Message-ID: On 12/11/07 8:59 AM, "E. Daniel Ayres" wrote: > Recent posting to this list seems all about specific technical issues and > conflicts over when/how agreements between somewhat nebulous groups are > being implemented. There may well be "reasons" for pulling specific web > sites down and/or putting up new ones. There comes a time, however, when in > the interests of efficiency, subscribers to a list should be able to > identify and expect a specific purpose to be served. If this list is to > serve all alumnae, should repeated sniping at specific individuals and their > actions be the daily faire? It would seem to me that SaveAntioch, or > another list server might be a more appropriate place for discussions of as > yet unresolved issues between university employees and the active technical > volunteer staff of the effort to Save Antioch College. > > > > This list may well also represent Alumnae who "don't care" if residential > programs are suspended and only restored when the curriculum, the > accreditation, and the faculty and finance issues have been fully reviewed, > vetted, and represent a consensus of the parties involved. I know that > this is a "new world" in the sense that computer saavy and fast typing > individuals have always dominated, but. > > > > E. Daniel Ayres > > 734-395-9141 (cell) > > http://home.comcast.net/~eayres > > > > > Daniel--As I have participated on Alum Chat off and on for years, I like the variety of voices and the absence of a firm party line or a stern webmaster. It follows that people do snipe at one another. Many, however, are sharp and interesting with new ideas. IMHO most alums whatever they may say here have very little influence on what happens in Yellow Springs. I listen carefully when Duffy, Bob, Scott, Laura and other Yellow Springers speak. And I hope they will all survive. Happy holidays to all! Art Dole '46 From pas0705 at yahoo.com Thu Dec 13 19:56:23 2007 From: pas0705 at yahoo.com (Laura Fathauer) Date: Thu Dec 13 19:56:26 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] New Record Article online! Message-ID: <993053.56603.qm@web63907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Log onto Recordonline.org for an extensive story on the move towards full separation of the College from The University. - The Editors Recordonline.org ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From mbrower32 at comcast.net Thu Dec 13 20:18:20 2007 From: mbrower32 at comcast.net (Michael Brower) Date: Thu Dec 13 20:18:34 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Coretta Scott King Center In-Reply-To: References: <3AD417F642884B4E8C438548338BF9F583B642@eftsomaexch11.eftsresource.com> Message-ID: On Dec 13, 2007, at 4:18 PM, John Dawson wrote: > What exactly are the details concerning the funding of the CSK > center? Is it self-supporting? Or does it require monies from the > College? > > John John and all, I have been waiting for a more official complete answer. In the meantime, I can give you a partial, and perhaps inaccurate or outdated answer. The short answer is that the CSK Center is NOT funded, is NOT endowed, and does require funding from the College or the University. And MUST be strongly supported soon to survive at all, and to surive separate from the University. When Dana Patterson was hired to be Director of the Center, it was made clear to her that part of her job (the major part?) was to fund raise! More details: 1. Some months ago, after the Trustees announced suspension, my memory says that Toni announced somewhere, or Dana passed on to us that Toni had told her, that she, Dana, and the CSK Center had one year to raise some amount, perhaps $100,000, to coninue for some time (one year?) in its present status. I have searched my hard dirve but cannot find that messsage. Dana, can you verify this, or correct it? 2. Dana did send to Mark Reynolds, who passed on to us, the following email on September 24 of this year. Dana, can you clarify for us your current situation? And, from me, my warm personal regards and fond wishes. And my sympathies that you and the CSK Center, have been caught up in this current horrendous mish- mash. 3. And to all of us, as we soon resume our major fund raising efforts, PLEASE, let us all put a top key strong major priority on raising first survival funds for, and then a huge endowment for, the CSK Center. There is no graduate of Antioch, no human being, no cause, which better signifies the greatness of the recent Antioch College, the Antioch that Coretta attended and gave so much credit to for her personal growth and devopment. We owe it to her, and to her legacy, and to our promises to her, and to her role in helping Martin, and to the future of humankind, to fund and endow and keep alive and thriving the Center which she gave us her name for. -- Mike Brower '55 PS. John's original message included a cc to Everette Freeman at: everette.freeman@asuramus.edu . But Comcast refused to send you this message until I pulled that out. Anyone have a correct current emaiol for Everette? From: Mark Reynolds Date: September 24, 2007 6:12:45 PM EDT To: communications@antiochians.org Subject: [Communications] CSK Center news Reply-To: Antiochian Communications The current/future status of the Coretta Scott King Center was discussed briefly on our last call. Here's the latest, shared as fyi. I'll try to touch base w/Dana before our next call. Mark Dana Patterson wrote: Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:05:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Alumni of Color Database and a Edith Scott-Beagly's response to Closing. To: "J. Lawrence Smith" CC: Kaarak@aol.com, JewelG@aol.com, teubanks@austinvoices.org, Markyvee@sbcglobal.net, dgrier1@msn.com, emillerw@gmail.com, kuf2@psu.edu, wilburn22701@earthlink.net, Maceo.Cofield@notes.udayton.edu, duffy@antioch-college.edu, Dona.Green@nychc.org, GRAMIRKALI@aol.com, Eric.Ingrum@modot.mo.gov, davidhouse@housearts.com, grahamjewel@sbcglobal.net, ecomegys@yahoo.com From: "Dana Patterson" Greetings all, I have not heard from this listserve in a while and wanted to take a moment to let folks know that I recently met with Toni Murdock (Antioch University Chancellor) about the status of the CSKC. I talked to her about the plan I submitted to maintain the CSKC (even if the college is suspended in June). It was a good talk and there is a strategy in place. On another note, we are planning a grand fundraising gala on March 27, 2008 and would love to have suggestions for people and/or organizations to contact that might well want to be invited because our goals coincide with their own. The piece that continues to be extremely clear is that we must raise funds. We are attempting our own independent efforts in this regard but if you know of folks we can contact, please let us know. On the larger scope, the Alumni board and the office of Development are on the move to raise the funds needed to maintain the college after June. We know that support to those efforts contributes to the overall health of the college and all of its programs. We, at the CSKC, urge you to consider supporting their efforts if you have not already done so. From what I understand they will be in contact with you soon. Peace and Blessings, Dana Dana Murray Patterson, PhD Director, Coretta Scott King Center for Cultural and Intellectual Freedom and Special Assistant to the President for Institutional Diversity Antioch College, Yellow Springs, Ohio (937) 769-1785 office dpatterson@antioch-college.edu _______________________________________________ Communications mailing list Communications@antiochians.org http://antiochians.org/mailman/listinfo/communications_antiochians.org From mbrower32 at comcast.net Thu Dec 13 22:26:02 2007 From: mbrower32 at comcast.net (Michael Brower) Date: Thu Dec 13 22:26:11 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Coretta Scott King Center In-Reply-To: References: <3AD417F642884B4E8C438548338BF9F583B642@eftsomaexch11.eftsresource.com> Message-ID: <3346C126-772A-43A4-B443-DED7848A673A@comcast.net> Dear John Dawson, Alumni Board, and Alumni in general, This afternoon John Dawson sent a question to some of us. I sent him and many of you a termporary and incomplete response. Here are John's questions. "What exactly are the details concerning the funding of the CSK center? Is it self-supporting? Or does it require monies from the College?" --- John Dana Patterson has been trying to send us her response to John's questions. But her email kept bouncing, probably because it was waiting for apporval from a "list manager." So then Dana sent me her response and asked me to pass it on to all of you. I have pasted it below. And because of the vital importance of this topic I have added Art Zucker and Lynda Sirk and a couple of more lists to the "To" box above. I hope that Comcast let's me send it to all of you! Given the special urgent situation of the Coretta Scott King Center, and given the special fund drive coming up soon, I am thinking seriously about making a pledge for one of these "Leadership Gifts" of $5,000 to help get the special funding drive started. This is 50 times what is my normal LARGEST charity or political donation of $100 per year! And it is 5 times what I pledged a year ago to donate to Antioch once a year. for 5 years. That is how important I think that Coretta Scott King herself was to our history, and how important I think it is that we honor our pledge to her and keep the Coretta Scott King Center open and thriving, for that pledge of ours to her, and for our past, for our present, for our future, and for the future of race relations and peace in our country and world. For those not aware of it, Coretta publicly gave Antioch a great deal of credit for her own personal development! Anyone care to join me? Whether or not you can afford it?!? If I hear of equal or larger pledges from 4 or more of you, that will push me over the hesitation threshold and commit me! Anybody willing to push me over with your own pledge of $5,000 or more? And who do your know, who do we know, that we could go after for similar contributions? And for the really big bucks? How about a $10 million endowment for starters? An annual yield of only 5% of that would guarantee an annual income of $500,000 for the Center! That wouid pay for several faculty and a bunch of student fellowships. -- Mike Brower Here is Dana's message" "Michael, I am sending you a direct response as my messages seem to be delayed by the moderator of these list serves. My hope is that you can forward my response to those in this group. I have been trying to respond but find that I am receiving a notice that my messages must first be approved to be posted to the list. Thank you. Dana Here is the orginal message that I sent in response to John's question. In response to the question posed by John, the CSKC was funded by Antioch College during the first years of operation but when I was hired as the Director about a year ago, we were challenged to raise funds and find other revenue streams. The grants and resources that we pursued did not materialize in part due to the shifting financial status of the college. To date we continue to be supported by Antioch College but under the current circumstances, the future of the CSKC is at risk. After the BOT announcement to suspend operations, I was told that if the CSKC could become self-sustaining, we might be able to survive the transition. We are launching a major fundraising campaign in 2008 that will secure the funds for ongoing operations of the Center. We are looking for leadership gifts of $5,000 and above that will be announced during our formal kickoff gala--March 27th, 2008. Anyone interested in supporting this effort may contact me directly. Thank you, Dana" Dana Murray Patterson, PhD Director, Coretta Scott King Center For Cultural and Intellectual Freedom And Special Assistant to the President For Institutional Diversity Antioch College (937) 769-1785 office dpatterson@antioch-college.edu "There are those of us who can walk the streets of bigotry, racism and poverty, hate and genocide, and not feel their presence, Living, sleeping, loving with these evils clinging to our skins, we soon believe it is our fate to live with them. We begin to think it is wrong to change the forces that hold us down. But once justice begins to rear her face, you begin to feel her piercing your conscience. Finally, you are willing to fight for change." ~Sylvia Delgado From duffy at antioch-college.edu Fri Dec 14 15:11:33 2007 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Fri Dec 14 15:11:20 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: Directors of the ACCC on campus Monday Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- Friday, December 14, 2007 9:59:37 AM College Staff From: Nancy Wilburn Subject: Directors of the ACCC on campus Monday To: Announcements College Staff faculty list emeriti Dear Community, Six members of the directors of the Antioch College Continuation Corporation will be on campus on Monday, December 17. These directors include: Frances Horowitz, '54 Eric Bates, '83 Laura Markham, '80 David Goodman, '69 Steve Schwerner, '60 Lee Morgan, '66 The directors have planned to meet with members of the community on Monday as follows: 10:00 - 11:30 am Open Community Meeting, McGregor 118 1:30 - 3:00 pm Open Community Meeting, McGregor 118 3:00 pm Faculty Steering Committee, Weston Hall The directors hope that you will be able to join them at one of the Open Community Meetings. Nancy Nancy Wilburn Executive Assistant Office of the President Antioch College Yellow Springs, OH 45387 Tel: (937) 769-1260 Fax: (937) 769-1288 From judemers at gmail.com Sat Dec 15 01:19:57 2007 From: judemers at gmail.com (Jude Logan Demers) Date: Sat Dec 15 01:20:02 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Fwd: CIA Tapes, Senate Nears FISA Vote and More In-Reply-To: <28440684.1197677034236.JavaMail.www@app18> References: <28440684.1197677034236.JavaMail.www@app18> Message-ID: <20c4b6960712142219l51dc5943r24ca0c0aba08144e@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ACLU Online Date: Dec 14, 2007 6:16 PM Subject: CIA Tapes, Senate Nears FISA Vote and More To: judemers@gmail.com [image: ACLU Home] [image: Join the ACLU] [image: Take Action] [image: ACLU Logo] [image: ACLU Online Title] [image: headline bar] [image: In This Issue] REMINDER: Tell your senators to vote against awful FISA legislation Citing Destruction of Torture Tapes, ACLU Asks Court to Hold CIA in Contempt It's Time: Close Guant?namo Become a Guardian of Liberty Today?You Can Make the Difference Pervasive Racial Discrimination in America Detailed in New ACLU Report New Drug Sentencing Guidelines Welcomed ACLU Wins Historic Agreement in South Dakota Voting Rights Case [image: Support the ACLU] *YOU CAN HELP PROTECT OUR BASIC FREEDOMS* by joining with over 550,000 card-carrying members of the ACLU. Our rights as individuals?the very foundation of our great democracy?depend on our willingness to defend them, and as an ACLU member, you'll be doing your part. Click now to safeguard our Bill of Rights by becoming an ACLU member. *ACLU Wins Historic Agreement in South Dakota Voting Rights Case * The ACLU recently won a historic agreement in South Dakota that will protect Native American voting rights in Charles Mix County for years to come. The South Dakota County has agreed to federal supervision of its elections through 2024. The agreement stems from a dispute over the districts use in elections for county commissioners. In November 2001, the ACLU wrote to the county on behalf of the Yankton Sioux Tribe complaining that the county's districts violated the one-person-one-vote principle of the Fourteenth Amendment and diluted the strength of Native American voting by splitting the Indian community into two districts. Although state law required the county to redraw districts in February 2002, the county commission voted to leave the districts in place. After further investigation, the ACLU brought a lawsuit on behalf of four tribal members. Their complaint charged not only that the district boundaries were unlawful but also that the commission's decision to leave them in place was intentionally discriminatory. "This settlement helps insure that the Native American voters of Charles Mix can fully participate in the political life of their county," said Jennifer Ring, Executive Director of the ACLU of the Dakotas. "Furthermore, it is another step forward on the road to full equality and healing of past wounds. That journey is long overdue and hard to undertake but it is possible and - as this case proves - well worth all the effort." *Blackmoon v. Charles Mix County* is one of seven lawsuits brought in federal court since 1999 by the ACLU on behalf of Native American voters in South Dakota. 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[image: Tell Your Friends] Do you know somebody who would be interested in getting news about the ACLU and what we're doing to protect civil liberties? *Help us spread the word about ACLU Online ? forward this newsletter to a friend. * December 14 , 2007 *REMINDER: Tell your senators to vote against awful FISA legislation * The Senate is set to begin debating FISA legislation that would give the president greatly expanded powers to spy on Americans. The ACLU is urgently asking concerned Americans to contact their senators to vote against the Intelligence Committee bill, anything resembling the Protect America Act or any bill that grants immunity to telecommunications companies that broke the law over the past six years. There isn't a moment to lose. Call your senators today. *Citing Destruction of Torture Tapes, ACLU Asks Court to Hold CIA in Contempt * TAKE ACTION Demand Attorney General Mukasey appoint an independent prosecutor to investigate and if appropriate, prosecute wrongdoing. Sign the Petition Last week, the head of the CIA, Michael Hayden, announced the agency destroyed tapes of what he called a "harsh interrogation" in order to protect agency operatives from legal consequences. The destruction of these tapes appears to be part of an extensive, long-term pattern of misusing executive authority to insulate individuals from criminal prosecution for torture and abuse. The CIA reportedly withheld knowledge of the tapes' existence from federal prosecutors and the 9/11 Commission, both of which specifically asked for depictions of interrogations. The government also failed to produce the tapes as part of an ACLU Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit in which a federal judge ordered the release of any documentation pertaining to treatment of detainees in U.S. custody. The ACLU filed a motion this week asking a federal judge to hold the CIA in contempt, charging that the agency flouted a court order when it destroyed at least two videotapes documenting the harsh interrogation of prisoners in its custody. In October 2003 and May 2004 in response to FOIA requests filed by the ACLU, the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York ordered the CIA to produce or identify all records pertaining to the treatment of detainees in its custody. Despite the court's ruling, the CIA never produced the tapes or even acknowledged their existence until last week. The C.I.A. also withheld knowledge of the tapes' destruction from the House and Senate intelligence committees who oversee the C.I.A. and from federal prosecutors and the 9/11 Commission even though they were specifically asked for depictions of interrogations. >> Learn about the ACLU's response to the CIA's destruction of interrogation tapes: [image: Close_Guantanamo_armband] On January 11th, the ACLU is calling on people of conscience to wear orange to demand the closing of the prison at Guant?namo Bay and an immediate end to 6 years of injustice. Make a contribution to the ACLU today and get an orange "Close Guant?namo" armband. *It's Time: Close Guant?namo * On January 11, 2002 the first prisoners from Afghanistan arrived at the prison at Guant?namo Bay. In the six years since, the prison has been a mark of shame for our country. The ACLU continues to work vigorously for the closure of the prison at Guant?namo Bay. Just last week we participated in two important events. First, the Supreme Court heard two cases that challenge the Bush Administration's policy of holding prisoners without charging them. As we stated in our brief to the court, "[T]heir confinement in military custody without charges or trial for more than five years violates fundamental principles of due process of law." Second, the ACLU continued to monitor the latest kangaroo court-style hearing at Guant?namo Bay. Staff attorney Hina Shamsi was there where she observed the military commission hearing of Salim Ahmed Hamdan. Allegedly Osama Bin Laden's driver, Hamdan is one of the very few prisoners at Guant?namo who has actually been charged with a crime; he was charged with conspiracy and material support for terrorism. "It has been widely reported that some of the defense's witnesses that were not permitted to speak at trial have each been subjected to extreme cruelty, if not torture, in CIA custody. 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The U.S. report ignores the dramatic effects of widespread racial and ethnic discrimination in this country. "Once again, the U.S. government has failed to level with the international community about its human rights record when it comes to racial injustice in America's own backyard" said Jamil Dakwar, Advocacy Director of the ACLU Human Rights Program. *Race & Ethnicity in America: Turning a Blind Eye to Injustice* details the setbacks in the promotion of racial and ethnic equality, including the government's attack on affirmative action and the courts' curtailment of civil rights. The ACLU report finds that discrimination in America permeates education, employment, the treatment of migrants and immigrants, law enforcement, access to justice for juveniles and adults, detention and incarceration, the death penalty and the many collateral consequences of incarceration including the loss of political rights. 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Thanks to the USSC's decision, such offenders will now have the opportunity to appear before the court and have their case reviewed by a judge. "The USSC has put the sentencing guidelines back where they should be, in line with the federal mandatory minimums," Jesselyn McCurdy, legislative counsel for the ACLU Washington Legislative Office said. "Better yet, their decision to apply the guidelines retroactively means justice for offenders sentenced under the previous guidelines, who may no longer have to serve more time than required by law." The decision came just one day after the Supreme Court's decision in *Kimbrough v. U.S*., which emphasized the advisory nature of sentencing guidelines and that judges can disagree with the 100 to 1 disparity between crack and powder cocaine by sentencing offenders below the guidelines. >> Learn More about the ACLU's Drug Law Reform Project: American Civil Liberties Union 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, New York 10004-2400 Geraldine Engel and Lisa Sock, Editors Privacy Statement This mail is never sent unsolicited. You, or someone on your behalf, has subscribed to receive this information from the American Civil Liberties Union. At the ACLU Web site, the ACLU gathers anonymous summary statistics on the responses to our email newsletters in order to better serve list subscribes and ACLU members. To review our Privacy Statement, *click here* . Click here to forward this message. DO NOT FORWARD FROM EMAIL PROGRAM: Your ACLU membership information is linked to this email, and may be disclosed if forwarded improperly. Privacy Statement Unsubscribe from receiving email, or change your email preferences. -- love, peace, joy, light, knowledge, wisdom, and understanding om shanthi hallelujah amen om shanthi hallelujah amen om shanthi hallelujah amen From judemers at gmail.com Sat Dec 15 16:22:09 2007 From: judemers at gmail.com (Jude Logan Demers) Date: Sat Dec 15 16:22:12 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Hello My Dear Friends and Happy Holidays Message-ID: <20c4b6960712151322i13897cf9jc79d185f4f0c3f37@mail.gmail.com> The following is an open letter. Dear Antioch College Community and Toni Murdock, It is good to hear from you on a regular basis Antioch College Community. Ms. Murdock it was a pleasant surprise to read your hopeful words regarding the future of my Alma Mater, Antioch College. I graduated in '97 and this year had an anti-climatic ten year reunion. The announcement of Antioch's potential suspension of operations came only days before our Antioch College reunion. Therefore, we had a revival. Now we have travelled a long road of fund raising, spirit raising, awareness raising, and consciousness raising since then. I feel and pray that we are very close to success. A success where we may all be happy and play together nicely. A family that prays together stays together. It is my prayer that Antioch College be granted autonomy. It is my prayer that Antioch University the child of Antioch College give her parent the space and freedom she needs to be successful. She raised you and she knows you best. Antioch University your all grown up now and inspite of rebelling against your mother we still love you and know and trust that you will do fine on your own. Let this be a lesson to you. Never bite the hand that feeds you. Sometimes tough love is the best love. At this negotiation table where we are all present I pray that we may continue to be patient. Pardon the metaphor, but Antioch University do what your mother Antioch College says. Listen to your mother and respect your mother. We are still mother and child and that will not change andhas not ever changed in the history of this historic humanitarian institution of higher education. Whether we both co-exist peacefully in Yellow Springs, Ohio as different educational facilities with different boards of trustees and different presidents, chancellors or whatever label we choose for our CEO, pastor, leader, priestess. It is my hopes that the BOT of AU(Antioch University) and the Chancelor, Ms. Murdock, let Antioch College go and let God into Antioch University with their blessings. We will have a better relationship this way. We have all withstood enough disinformation, misinformation, mismanagement, and finacial hardship. We Antioch College, your elderly parents, are strong enough to stand on our own. The fund raising that we have done plus the fact that we created the various branches of Antioch University are plenty proof that we are all prepared for this transition and positive transformation. In prayer of making the season bright, Jude Demers Antioch College B.A. '97 in the self designed combined major of Cross-cultural Studies and Performance Art. Yellow Springs Resident Sincerely, Jude -- love, peace, joy, light, knowledge, wisdom, and understanding om shanthi hallelujah amen om shanthi hallelujah amen om shanthi hallelujah amen From grinrose at aol.com Sat Dec 15 16:34:51 2007 From: grinrose at aol.com (grinrose@aol.com) Date: Sat Dec 15 16:35:08 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] Hello My Dear Friends and Happy Holidays In-Reply-To: <20c4b6960712151322i13897cf9jc79d185f4f0c3f37@mail.gmail.com> References: <20c4b6960712151322i13897cf9jc79d185f4f0c3f37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CA0D7975DCFBD0-F40-8DC@webmail-mf08.sysops.aol.com> Beautifully said Jude!? (and congratulations on your engagement!) -megan -----Original Message----- From: Jude Logan Demers To: Alumni List ; Save Antioch Sent: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 3:22 pm Subject: [Alumni-chat] Hello My Dear Friends and Happy Holidays The following is an open letter. Dear Antioch College Community and Toni Murdock, It is good to hear from you on a regular basis Antioch College Community. Ms. Murdock it was a pleasant surprise to read your hopeful words regarding the future of my Alma Mater, Antioch College. I graduated in '97 and this year had an anti-climatic ten year reunion. The announcement of Antioch's potential suspension of operations came only days before our Antioch College reunion. Therefore, we had a revival. Now we have travelled a long road of fund raising, spirit raising, awareness raising, and consciousness raising since then. I feel and pray that we are very close to success. A success where we may all be happy and play together nicely. A family that prays together stays together. It is my prayer that Antioch College be granted autonomy. It is my prayer that Antioch University the child of Antioch College give her parent the space and freedom she needs to be successful. She raised you and she knows you best. Antioch University your all grown up now and inspite of rebelling against your mother we still love you and know and trust that you will do fine on your own. Let this be a lesson to you. Never bite the hand that feeds you. Sometimes tough love is the best love. At this negotiation table where we are all present I pray that we may continue to be patient. Pardon the metaphor, but Antioch University do what your mother Antioch College says. Listen to your mother and respect your mother. We are still mother and child and that will not change andhas not ever changed in the history of this historic humanitarian institution of higher education. Whether we both co-exist peacefully in Yellow Springs, Ohio as different educational facilities with different boards of trustees and different presidents, chancellors or whatever label we choose for our CEO, pastor, leader, priestess. It is my hopes that the BOT of AU(Antioch University) and the Chancelor, Ms. Murdock, let Antioch College go and let God into Antioch University with their blessings. We will have a better relationship this way. We have all withstood enough disinformation, misinformation, mismanagement, and finacial hardship. We Antioch College, your elderly parents, are strong enough to stand on our own. The fund raising that we have done plus the fact that we created the various branches of Antioch University are plenty proof that we are all prepared for this transition and positive transformation. In prayer of making the season bright, Jude Demers Antioch College B.A. '97 in the self designed combined major of Cross-cultural Studies and Performance Art. Yellow Springs Resident Sincerely, Jude -- love, peace, joy, light, knowledge, wisdom, and understanding om shanthi hallelujah amen om shanthi hallelujah amen om shanthi hallelujah amen _______________________________________________ Alumni-chat mailing list Alumni-chat@w3.antioch.edu http://w3.antioch.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni-chat Visit http://www.Antioch-College.edu today! ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com From duffy at antioch-college.edu Mon Dec 17 12:27:52 2007 From: duffy at antioch-college.edu (Steven Duffy) Date: Mon Dec 17 12:27:25 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] antiochians.org Message-ID: Hello friends, romans, and J. David Coldren.... The morning session with the ACCC was findable on Antiochians.org "broadcast live" perhaps the afternoon session will be available as well. Good to sit in the room with such benevolent folks. Hopefully.....folks will consider putting the Antioch College Alumni Association College Revival Fund on the Christmas list...and on your list of deductions if you are blessed enough to itemize. Every dollar helps us in the long term win-win effort. It is good to have some big benefectors...but in the long term to be truly successful and independent the rank n file masses' help is so critical. If you only care a little please send a little (for now)...someone like me who is "unwealthy" has to hope several piddly contributions matter. Indeed...foundations and grantsfolk do look at the number of donors as well as the total in dollars. So if you only have a little left after the holiday madness and gas fillups...well a little of that little would help. and there may be possibilities for sweat equity down the road as well. Duffy from snowy YS. From pas0705 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 28 16:17:20 2007 From: pas0705 at yahoo.com (Laura Fathauer) Date: Fri Dec 28 16:17:24 2007 Subject: [Alumni-chat] YS news article regarding ACCC meeting Message-ID: <461771.67094.qm@web63911.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Because I haven't seen it posted yet: http://www.ysnews.com/stories/2007/12/122007_accc.html happy winter solstice y'all. -laura ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ